Well said John.

-joe

On Oct 28, 2011, at 8:26 AM, John Dickinson wrote:
> On Oct 28, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Ed Leafe wrote:
>>      Swift had the advantage of starting out as a closed source project that 
>> only had to serve a single master, and thus didn't need external 
>> orchestration to keep it on track. Nova, OTOH, as a community development 
>> effort, essentially had to be all things to all people, which is unworkable; 
>> hence the need for some up-front design to keep some sort of focus to the 
>> development. The problem is that this inevitably descends into bikeshedding, 
>> which has been prominently on display in this thread.
> 
> I absolutely do not want to compare different openstack projects. That all 
> too often is perceived as an "us vs them", and I want to avoid that 
> altogether. Yes, nova and swift and glance and keystone and horizon are 
> different. My point from earlier is that because the projects are different 
> (in scope, users, and dev lifecycle), statements like "all openstack projects 
> need to do X" are either meaningless or unmanageable.
> 
> Openstack is a collection if different parts that should work together, but 
> that doesn't mean that there are one size fits all solutions to issues that 
> come up. These discussions around the One True Way to do things are a 
> distraction at best. If you have 2 people arguing about the best way for an 
> aspect of a particular project should work, have them both code it up (or 
> write the docs or design the UI or whatever) and then compare and choose the 
> best implementation. Bikeshedding (along with complaining about bikeshedding 
> [meta!]) feels satisfying, but it's a hollow pursuit that distracts from 
> getting things done.
> 
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