I would like to be real light on governance here. I think self-governance, especially at the beginning, is perfectly acceptable.
-Chris -----Original Message----- From: openstack-bounces+chris.bohannon=rackspace....@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+chris.bohannon=rackspace....@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Jay Pipes Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 4:52 PM To: Bryan Taylor Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] openstack-satellite On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Bryan Taylor <btay...@rackspace.com> wrote: > I don't know, but there are several obvious next steps: > - Document publicly the criteria for a project to fit Not really sure there needs to be criteria, really... > - Identify resources available to participating projects What do you mean here? Are you referring to resources in the sense of online source control and bug tracking, etc? > - Formalize it with the PPB and unleash it There is no reason to have the PPB involved in this, IMHO... > - Build the Satellite community The community will grow as projects are added to the Satellite directory and the contributors to those projects make a big deal about directing people to the Satellite site. I think trying to force the growth of a community specifically around Satellite is a mistake. The OpenStack ecosystem IS the community, and attempting to create a separate community just around Satellite projects would unnecessarily divide the overall community... > A big question we didn't discuss is what the governance model for Satellite > should be. I don't necessarily think that a contributor to Satellite should > be treated the same as a core contributor (eg: vote on the PTLs etc). But > there may be building blocks within Satellite that need to be governed on > their own. I would advise NOT having any particular governance model for Satellite projects. The projects themselves should self-govern by the cultural norms of the programming language communities that are relevant to the project; since Satellite projects can be anything related to OpenStack -- just not the core reference implementations of the OpenStack APIs -- there really shouldn't be a governance model that attempts to control or limit this ecosystem. At least, that's just my opinion! :) > I think some of the standards around APIs that cut across services are > things that Satellite contributors should have a say in. I definitely think > things like QA and CI matter a lot (perhaps more) to Satellite. Sure, absolutely QA and CI matter a lot to anyone that is developing alternate implementations of OpenStack APIs (i.e. non-core implementations) or is developing an application that consumes the APIs. I would expect that developers of Satellite projects that depend on stable OpenStack APIs definitely voice their needs and concerns on the main openstack mailing list. (hint, hint!) Cheers, -jay > On 10/14/2011 11:24 AM, David Medberry wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I've not seen anything following the ODS about OpenStack Satellite (or >> whatever new name has been proposed). >> >> Is discussion going on another list? >> >> I also don't see an etherpad for it posted here: >> >> http://wiki.openstack.org/EssexSummitEtherpads >> >> Was the discussion captured somewhere else? >> >> -dave >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack >> Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > This email may include confidential information. If you received it in > error, please delete it. > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack > Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp This email may include confidential information. If you received it in error, please delete it. _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
