++ On 09/09/2011 03:07 PM, John Dickinson wrote: > To be clear, I too am hesitant to mute people. I do not want muting to > be seen as a tool used to silence discussion or opinions. I only see it > as useful as a potential way to organize the discussion to allow for > more clarity. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 9, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Paul Voccio <openst...@substation9.com > <mailto:openst...@substation9.com>> wrote: > >> John, >> >> We were just discussing this problem the other day. I'm hesitant to >> mute people, but the chaos is hard to follow. I often have to go back >> and read the logs to study what people's opinions are. I would be >> interested in trying some of your suggestions with the appropriate >> time for comments and discussion with the community. >> >> pvo >> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Monty Taylor >> <<mailto:mord...@inaugust.com>mord...@inaugust.com >> <mailto:mord...@inaugust.com>> wrote: >> >> On 09/09/2011 11:05 AM, John Dickinson wrote: >> > I have found the PPB meetings to be very disjointed and hard to >> > follow. A classic example is from our last meeting where 3 votes >> were >> > proposed and only 2 were voted on. At times we have several >> > conversations going on at once. Sometimes we vote, someone continues >> > the discussion, and then we revote. It's possible that people >> > offering support for an idea (with a +1) may be counted in a vote, >> > even if that person is not on the PPB. These sorts of things tend to >> > push the PPB meetings toward chaos. >> >> I fully agree with this. >> >> > 1) What if during the PPB meetings only those people on the PPB were >> > voiced and could speak? I absolutely do not want to discourage >> > valuable input from people not on the PPB, so I think this would >> > require meaningful time allowed for "public commentary" where anyone >> > and everyone can speak. One implementation would be to mute all >> > non-PPB members in the channel during a vote. Another implementation >> > would be to have designated non-PPB time about each topic, perhaps >> > after initial PPB member discussion. I think a more moderated >> > discussion could perhaps make better use of our limited meeting time >> > and help everyone be more clear on what is being discussed and voted >> > on. >> >> This is not a terrible idea. >> >> Also - I almost started hacking on something the other day and then >> realized that I have 50 bazillion more important things to do, BUT: >> >> The meetbot used in #ubuntu-meeting has a voting feature. Similar >> to the >> #topic command we use with our meetbot, it has a #vote command. So >> like: >> >> #vote Should we all only drink Dr. Pepper? >> >> And then it counts the +1's and such given by participants. >> >> So I was going to port that idea in to our meetbot. >> >> Additionally (and this would help support your voice/non-voice idea) I >> was thinking that if we gave an additional argument to >> #startmeeting (in >> my brain, the launchpad team, since we already have those set up) we >> could have the meetbot grab a list of people it allows to vote, etc. >> from the team given - and even add a couple of toggle commands #public >> #private which could toggle voices only to team members or to >> everyone. >> >> So, I think that's 2.5 feature requests for meetbot. On the plus side, >> the code is in python. Anybody wanna do a little hacking? >> >> > 2) Can we have an official summary of the meetings published after >> > each of the meetings? The notes that the meetbot provides are sparse >> > (at best) and the raw IRC logs are voluminous and hard to read. >> >> ++ >> >> Monty >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: >> >> <https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc>https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc >> Post to : >> >> <mailto:openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net>openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net >> <mailto:openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net> >> Unsubscribe : >> >> <https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc>https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc >> More help : >> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp>https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >>
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