On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Fox, Kevin M <kevin....@pnnl.gov> wrote: > How about stated this way, > Its the tc's responsibility to get it done. Either by delegating the > activity, or by doing it themselves. But either way, it needs to get done. > Its a ball that has been dropped too much in OpenStacks history. If no one is > ultimately responsible, balls will keep getting dropped. > > Thanks, > Kevin
I see the role of TC the same way I do the PTL hat, but on more of a meta scale: too much direct involvement can stifle things. On the inverse, not enough involvement can result in people saying one's work is legacy, to be nice, or dead, at worst. All too often, we humans get hung up on the definitions of words, sometimes to the point of inaction. It seems only when someone says sod it do things move forward, regardless of anyone's level of involvement. I look to TC as the group that sets the tone, de facto product owners, to paraphrase from OpenStack's native tongue. The more hands-on an individual is with the output, TC or not, a perception arises that a given effort needs only that person's attention; thereby, setting a much different narrative than might otherwise be immediately noticed or desired. The place I see TC is making sure that there is meaningful progress on agreed-upon efforts, however that needs to exist. Sometimes that might be recruiting, but I don't see browbeating social media to be particularly valuable from an individual standpoint. Sometimes that would be collaborating through code, if it comes down to it. From an overarching perspective, I view hands-on coding by TC to be somewhat of a last resort effort due to individual commitments. Perceptions surrounding actions, like the oft used 'stepping up' phrase, creates an effect where people do not carve out enough time to effect change, becoming too busy, repeat ad infinitum. Best, Samuel _______________________________________________ OpenStack-operators mailing list OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators
