Hi Flint,

Yes, our documentation follows the OpenStack documentation rules. It
is in RestructuredText format.

The documentation team has some guides here:
https://docs.openstack.org/doc-contrib-guide/rst-conv.html

However we can also help with that during the review process.

Michael

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 11:03 PM Flint WALRUS <gael.ther...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ok sweet! Many thanks ! Awesome, I’ll be able to continue our deployment with 
> peace in mind.
>
> Regarding the documentation patch, does it need to get a specific format or 
> following some guidelines? I’ll compulse all my annotations and push a patch 
> for those points that would need clarification and a little bit of formatting 
> (layout issue).
>
> Thanks for this awesome support Michael!
> Le mer. 1 août 2018 à 07:57, Michael Johnson <johnso...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> No worries, happy to share. Answers below.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 9:49 PM Flint WALRUS <gael.ther...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Michael,
>> >
>> > Oh ok! That config-drive trick was the missing part! Thanks a lot! Is 
>> > there a release target for the API vs config-drive thing? I’ll have a look 
>> > at an instance as soon as I’ll be able to log into one of my amphora.
>>
>> No I have no timeline for the amphora-agent config update API.  Either
>> way, the initial config will be installed via config drive. The API is
>> intended for runtime updates.
>> >
>> > By the way, three sub-questions remains:
>> >
>> > 1°/ - What is the best place to push some documentation improvement ?
>>
>> Patches are welcome!  All of our documentation is included in the
>> source code repository here:
>> https://github.com/openstack/octavia/tree/master/doc/source
>>
>> Our patches follow the normal OpenStack gerrit review process
>> (OpenStack does not use pull requests).
>>
>> > 2°/ - Is the amphora-agent an auto-generated file at image build time or 
>> > do I need to create one and give it to the diskimage-builder process?
>>
>> The amphora-agent code itself is installed automatically with the
>> diskimage-builder process via the "amphora-agent" element.
>> The amphora-agent configuration file is only installed at amphora boot
>> time by nova using the config drive capability. It is also
>> auto-generated by the controller.
>>
>> > 3°/ - The amphora agent source-code is available at 
>> > https://github.com/openstack/octavia/tree/master/octavia/amphorae/backends/agent
>> >  isn’t?
>>
>> Yes, the agent code that runs in the amphora instance is all under
>> https://github.com/openstack/octavia/tree/master/octavia/amphorae/backends
>> in the main octavia repository.
>>
>> >
>> > Sorry for the questions volume, but I prefer to really understand the 
>> > underlying mechanisms before we goes live with the solution.
>> >
>> > G.
>> >
>> > Le mer. 1 août 2018 à 02:36, Michael Johnson <johnso...@gmail.com> a écrit 
>> > :
>> >>
>> >> Hi Flint,
>> >>
>> >> Happy to help.
>> >>
>> >> Right now the list of controller endpoints is pushed at boot time and
>> >> loaded into the amphora via config drive/nova.
>> >> In the future we plan to be able to update this list via the amphora
>> >> API, but it has not been developed yet.
>> >>
>> >> I am pretty sure centos is getting the config file as our gate job
>> >> that runs with centos 7 amphora has been passing. It should be in the
>> >> same /etc/octavia/amphora-agent.conf location as the ubuntu based
>> >> amphora.
>> >>
>> >> Michael
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 10:05 AM Flint WALRUS <gael.ther...@gmail.com> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi Michael, thanks a lot for that explanation, it’s actually how I 
>> >> > envisioned the flow.
>> >> >
>> >> > I’ll have to produce a diagram for my peers understanding, I maybe can 
>> >> > share it with you.
>> >> >
>> >> > There is still one point that seems to be a little bit odd to me.
>> >> >
>> >> > How the amphora agent know where to find out the healthManagers and 
>> >> > worker services? Is that because the worker is sending the agent some 
>> >> > catalog informations or because we set that at diskimage-create time?
>> >> >
>> >> > If so, I think the Centos based amphora is missing the agent.conf 
>> >> > because currently my vms doesn’t have any.
>> >> >
>> >> > Once again thanks for your help!
>> >> > Le mar. 31 juil. 2018 à 18:15, Michael Johnson <johnso...@gmail.com> a 
>> >> > écrit :
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Flint,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We don't have a logical network diagram at this time (it's still on
>> >> >> the to-do list), but I can talk you through it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The Octavia worker, health manager, and housekeeping need to be able
>> >> >> to reach the amphora (service VM at this point) over the lb-mgmt-net
>> >> >> on TCP 9443. It knows the amphora IP addresses on the lb-mgmt-net via
>> >> >> the database and the information we save from the compute driver (I.e.
>> >> >> what IP was assigned to the instance).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The Octavia API process does not need to be connected to the
>> >> >> lb-mgmt-net at this time. It only connects the the messaging bus and
>> >> >> the Octavia database. Provider drivers may have other connectivity
>> >> >> requirements for the Octavia API.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The amphorae also send UDP packets back to the health manager on port
>> >> >> 5555. This is the heartbeat packet from the amphora. It contains the
>> >> >> health and statistics from that amphora. It know it's list of health
>> >> >> manager endpoints from the configuration file
>> >> >> "controller_ip_port_list"
>> >> >> (https://docs.openstack.org/octavia/latest/configuration/configref.html#health_manager.controller_ip_port_list).
>> >> >> Each amphora will rotate through that list of endpoints to reduce the
>> >> >> chance of a network split impacting the heartbeat messages.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This is the only traffic that passed over this network. All of it is
>> >> >> IP based and can be routed (it does not require L2 connectivity).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Michael
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 2:00 AM Flint WALRUS <gael.ther...@gmail.com> 
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Hi Folks,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I'm currently deploying the Octavia component into our testing 
>> >> >> > environment which is based on KOLLA.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So far I'm quite enjoying it as it is pretty much straight forward 
>> >> >> > (Except for some documentation pitfalls), but I'm now facing a weird 
>> >> >> > and hard to debug situation.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I actually have a hard time to understand how Amphora are 
>> >> >> > communicating back and forth with the Control Plan components.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > From my understanding, as soon as I create a new LB, the Control 
>> >> >> > Plan is spawning an instance using the configured Octavia Flavor and 
>> >> >> > Image type, attach it to the LB-MGMT-NET and to the user provided 
>> >> >> > subnet.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > What I think I'm misunderstanding is the discussion that follows 
>> >> >> > between the amphora and the different components such as the 
>> >> >> > HealthManager/HouseKeeper, the API and the Worker.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > How is the amphora agent able to found my control plan? Is the 
>> >> >> > HealthManager or the Octavia Worker initiating the communication to 
>> >> >> > the Amphora on port 9443 and so give the agent the API/Control plan 
>> >> >> > internalURL?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If anyone have a diagram of the workflow I would be more than happy 
>> >> >> > ^^
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks a lot in advance to anyone willing to help :D
>> >> >> >
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