Matt,

Good question. The PTG is definitely occurring in the Fall. We would evaluate the value of it as a community based on feedback from the PTG/Ops meetup, Board feedback, survey results, budget, etc... If it was decided not to hold the PTG in 2019, we would of course need to reevaluate at that time.
Let me know if I can answer any further questions.

Thanks,
Jimmy

Matt Riedemann <mailto:mriede...@gmail.com>
March 28, 2018 at 2:32 PM


Not to be too much of a downer here, but with the future of the PTG survey I just took, does the ops community want to wait until that's all sorted out? i.e. what happens if the future of the PTG means there is no PTG, and it's all just munged together at the Forum, which is no longer at the beginning of the cycle for vertical teams to plan their release (like the old design summit) and is prohibitively expensive for lowly devs and ops to attend? Would the ops community just want to continue doing what they are doing?
Chris Morgan <mailto:mihali...@gmail.com>
March 27, 2018 at 12:49 PM
Hello Everyone
You've probably see the thread about possibly combining ops meetups with PTG to make a new broader event. Here is a rough draft of what that would actually look like:
*"Monday and Tuesday are cross-project days where ops are welcome to 
attend SIG and other discussions, and if not interested can be travel 
days or whatever for them. Then Wed-Thurs are the two tracks/events 
where the ops folks have what has traditionally been done for ops 
meetups. Then Friday is a travel day or ops can stick around to follow 
up with dev-side things
that they weren't able to get to over the week or wanted to follow up 
on."*
Thanks to Sean McGinnis for proposing this to get the ball rolling. 
This would mean there's a "normal" ops meetup for two days on days 3 
and 4 of this combined event, with the option of attending earlier 
(days 1 and 2) if you want to contribute to dev/ops/openstack 
community sessions (e.g. SIGs), and possibly also staying a 5th day.
The event is currently pencilled in for September in a central part of 
the USA. It will be organized by the Foundation logistically but the 
various sub-groups own their technical agendas.
We unfortunately forgot to record the chat as a formal meeting, but 
you can see the raw IRC chat here
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-operators/%23openstack-operators.2018-03-27.log.html#t2018-03-27T14:03:40 
<http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-operators/%23openstack-operators.2018-03-27.log.html#t2018-03-27T14:03:40>
With the current level of support for this idea, it looks likely to 
happen, but, particularly if you object, please speak up ASAP. Note 
that this would be instead of the tentative idea we had of an event in 
NYC in August. If this is welcomed by the operators community, I'll 
certainly try to swap the sponsorship from my employer over to this as 
I feel it will be even more valuable and initial feedback from other 
potential sponsors is favorable.
Please make your voice heard on this issue!

Chris

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