There is an interesting proposal developing as part of 
https://review.openstack.org/460112 which it would be great to get more 
feedback on from other operators.

My view is that OpenStack would benefit greatly from a troubleshooting guide. I 
remember my days with AIX (long ago) when a guide had the classic IBM 
information on “if you get this, this is why, you need to check this and here 
is how to fix it”.

Developing a framework for every message to have an ID would be a significant 
change and would require major investment of effort.

The proposal outlined in that we use the Python Exception framework to have the 
Exception Name as the basis for trouble shooting and googling for errors. While 
there is no guarantee of uniqueness, this gives a basis for developing the 
appropriate guides.

Feel free to provide your input on the review,
Tim

On 28/04/17 00:30, "Nematollah Bidokhti" <nematollah.bidok...@huawei.com> wrote:

    Hi,
    
    I have been working on the concept of fault management blueprint to 
increase cloud resiliency. As part of this proposal, info such as logs, KPIs, 
health checks and so on are critical since we are engaging in deep data 
analysis and machine learning.
    >> 
    >> To ease the data analysis process there must be consistent logs. This 
comes with having IDs and severity properties.
    >> 
    >> Cloud resiliency in general requires fast fault detection, isolation and 
recovery. In addition, there are applications such as NFV that is sensitive to 
fast fault detection and recovery. One approach is to have meaningful logs 
where by parsing the data we can make real time fault management decisions.
    >> 
    >> Similar to interrupts, I would like us to have logging hierarchy which 
can help an automated fault management system to take accurate and appropriate 
actions. The format of the logs is important since it will ease the ML analysis 
later in the process.
    >> 
    >> Thanks,
    >> Nemat
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Doug Hellmann [mailto:d...@doughellmann.com] 
    Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 7:28 AM
    To: openstack-operators <openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org>
    Subject: [Openstack-operators] looking for feedback on proposals to improve 
logging
    
    I am looking for some feedback on two new proposals to add IDs to log 
messages. Please see the thread on openstack-dev, and comment there or on the 
specs referenced there.
    
    http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115958.html
    
    Thanks!
    Doug
    
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