This has been my experience as well. I purposefully attend the project fishbowl sessions and often the project mid cycles to be able to provide real time operator feedback as future plans are discussed and retrospectives from the previous release are held.
 
Given a choice between attending either the Ops mid cycle or the PTG, I see far more value in the PTG, which will be held at a very similar time.
-jlk
 
 
----- Original message -----
From: Matthias Runge <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] 2017 Openstack Operators Mid-Cycle Meetups - venue selection etherpads
Date: Thu, Oct 27, 2016 5:33 AM
 
On 27/10/16 11:08, Erik McCormick wrote:
> The PTG is for devs to get together and get real work done. We would be
> a distraction from that goal. They will also be attending the forum
> which will run with the summits and will be able to spend more time in
> groups with ops for requirements gathering and such.
>
> -Erik
>
>
> On Oct 27, 2016 11:05 AM, "Jesse Keating" <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     I may have missed something, but why aren't we meeting at the
>     Project Technical Gathering, which is at the end of February in Atlanta?

From my experience with OpenStack, feedback from operators have been
invaluable.

You can easily run things in devstack (or all-in-one deployments), but
this is completely different from running in scale. Operators do tell
you, were the pain-points are. Having a dedicated gathering without
involving actual operators/users is not that useful IMO.

Matthias
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