On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 02:12:11PM -0800, Clark Boylan wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, at 1:45 AM, Roman Gorshunov wrote:
> > Hello Clark,
> > 
> > Thank you for your reply. Meeting time is OK for me. I have forwarded
> > invitation to Pete Birley and Matt McEuen, they would hopefully join
> > us.
> 
> I wanted to make sure we got a summary of this meeting sent out. Notes were 
> kept at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Wqxwce1UDq
> 
> Airship needs to test their All in One deployment tool. This tool deploys 
> their entire bootstrapping system into a single VM which is then used to 
> deploy other software which may be clustered. Because the production usage of 
> this tool is via a VM it is actually important to be able to test the 
> contents of that VM in CI and that is what creates the memory requirements 
> for Airship CI.
> 
> We explained the benefits of being able to run Airship CI on less special 
> hardware. Airship gains redundancy as more than one provider can supply these 
> resources, reliability should be improved as nested virt has been known to be 
> flaky, and better familiarity within the community with global resources 
> means that debugging and working together is easier.
> 
> However, we recognize that Airship has specific constraints today that 
> require more specialized testing. The proposed plan is to move forward with 
> adding a new cloud, but have it provide specialized and generic resources. 
> The intent is to address Airship's needs of today with the expectation that 
> they will work towards running on the generic resources. Having generic 
> resources ensures that the infra team has exposure to this new cloud outside 
> the context of Airship. This improves familiarity and debuggability of the 
> system. It is also more equitable as other donations are globally used. Also, 
> Nodepool doesn't actually allow us to prevent consumption of resources 
> exposed to the system; however, we would ask that specialized resources only 
> be used when necessary to test specific cases as with Airship. This is 
> similar to our existing high memory, multi numa node, nested virt enabled 
> test flavors.
> 
> For next steps we'll work to add the new cloud with the two sets of flavors, 
> and Airship will begin investigating what a modified test setup looks like to 
> run on our generic resources. We'll see where that takes us.
> 
> Let me know if this summary needs editing or updating.
> 
> Finally, we'll be meeting again Wednesday January 29, 2020 at 1600UTC to 
> followup on any questions now that things should be moving. I recently used 
> jitsi meet and it worked really well so want to give that a try for this. 
> Lets meet at https://meet.jit.si/AirshipCICloudFun. Fungi says you can click 
> the circled "i" icon at that url to get dial in info if necessary.
> 
> If for some reason jitsi doesn't work we'll fall back to the method used last 
> time: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Conferencing room 6001.
> 
Regarding the dedicated cloud, it might be an interesting discussion
point to talk with some of the TripleO folks from when
tripleo-test-cloud-rh1 cloud was still a thing. As most infra people
know, this was a cloud dedicated to running tripleo specific jobs.

There was an effort to make there jobs more generic, to run on any cloud
infrastructure, which resulted IMO, to a large increase of testing (as
there was much more capacity). While it took a bit of effort, I believe
overall it was a better improvement for CI.

Paul


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