I just noticed that this conversation moved off-list last week. Figuring out how to deal with alpha releases is important for Oslo for Juno. Should I propose a summit session, or do you think we can work this out in email?
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Doug Hellmann <doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com>wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Clark Boylan <clark.boy...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Doug Hellmann >> <doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com> wrote: >> > One of the things I've been thinking about for Juno and beyond is how >> Oslo >> > will make new features available to consuming projects safely (i.e., >> without >> > publishing official releases weekly in a way that might break stable >> > branches). I know that at one point we talked about publishing alpha >> > releases as wheels to PyPI so that developers could see them when they >> run >> > their unit tests locally. Is that still the best solution to the >> problem? Do >> > we have the tools we need to make that work? >> > >> > Doug >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > OpenStack-Infra mailing list >> > OpenStack-Infra@lists.openstack.org >> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-infra >> > >> >> Wheels aren't really useful until pip >=1.5 because it will use them >> by default if it can find them. In older versions of pip you need to >> set special flags and stuff to make pip use wheels. As a result the >> ideal solution is we start using latest pip then we can publish and >> consume wheels without much work (important for making sure we are >> publishing useable packages). Ideally we would get new pip for free >> with latest tox, but latest tox broke our tox.ini files so that hasn't >> happend. If we want to manage pip for tox (which is probably going to >> be painful) we could go down that route to publish and consume wheels. >> >> At one point there was hope that tox would become compatible with us >> but after talking with upstream it looks like we will need to edit our >> tox.ini files to use latest tox. I wouldn't count on new tox being in >> use any time soon. That leaves us with attempting to get new pip via >> some other method. >> >> Clark >> > > Or doing something other than wheels, I'm not tied to that approach. I > thought wheels solved a problem with older versions of pip, rather than > introducing one. > > The previous attempt to do this was based on installing from tarball > snapshots. That's not a very attractive approach, though, so I don't think > we want to go that way. > > How about publishing alpha sdist packages somewhere other than PyPI? > > Doug > >
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