On 03/17/2014 08:07 PM, Philip Schwartz wrote:
On 3/17/14, 5:33 PM, "Sean Dague" <[email protected]> wrote:
Have you considered other open source efforts to build upon, like
phabricator? That came up on IRC a few nights ago by Ryan Lane. And it
seems like a lot of mileage could be gained from contributing to an
existing upstream, even if it's an alternative one to gerrit.
I have nothing against starting from a known base if there is something
that meets a majority of our needs and can be easily enhanced. With that
said, I would not feel that Phabricator would fit into that. It is not bad
at what it does, but happens to be a very odd PHP app. From my experience
with PHP (which is vast), server side applications that do any
functionality that is beyond being just a web app tend to have poor code
bases and very strange hacks to get around the fastcgi or mod_php sandbox
that PHP runs in.
I looked at Phabricator before storyboard - I agree with Philip. It's a
good application, but I don't think it's a good application for us. Same
as with bug tracking - we have some really specific requirements.
I have been looking at a lot of things that all are code review related
and also looked at review board as suggested earlier. All have elements
that I like and do not like and none of them meet the needs of the
OpenStack project completely. Personally I feel that making an attempt at
meeting our needs while leveraging external libraries is good idea, and
using things that applications like review board use and some of the
libraries they use is a good starting point.
I think we have an opinionated view of how this works - and as it
interfaces with things like zuul and turbo-hipster, we deal with a
massive amount of things that are pretty specific to us. I'm not saying
that's a thing to be proud of or a thing to be ashamed of - it simply is.
Which means, although I tend to have a side which agrees with Clint and
Clark that replacing gerrit is a bit of a potential giant rathole - I
also think that making a scalable thing that architecturally fits with
the other things we've got would be nice. I don't really care about the
java v. python part - but ultimately gerrit is designed as a single
monolithic service - and although we haven't hit its ability to scale ..
yet ... I think it's only a matter of time.
The google guys run their gerrit on a google specific sekrit backend
after all.
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