-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/10/15 15:06, Kato, Tomoyuki wrote: >> On 01/10/15 06:37, Lana Brindley wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 30/09/15 16:41, Andreas Jaeger wrote: >>>> Let me open a side discussion: >>>> >>>> I also see far too many bug reports getting asked for. >>>> >>>> We have been liberal about "obvious" bugs. So, a typo does not need a >>>> bug report. A one-line addition of an OpenStack project that is par t o >>> f >>>> the big tent to a list of repos doesn't need one (a complete new ch apt >>> er >>>> needs IMHO something) etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> Some people just create those but let's not complicate contribution an >>> d >>>> if a patch is obvious, include it. >>>> >>>> There's no sense to create a bug report "like X is missing in list Y" >>>> and then confirm it, and fix it. >>>> >>> >>> I absolutely agree with you here, and it's more or less what I was >>> trying to get to by saying we needed to trust everyone's judgement. If >>> you notice a typo, you don't need a bug, and if you have a bug, you >>> don't need it triaged before you fix it. >>> >>> We need to allow people to have control over what they're doing, whi le >>> still maintaining good quality control. That's a tricky balance to >>> manage, and I don't have any brilliant ideas outside of 'keep talkin g to >>> people about this'. Happy to hear your collective wisdom :) >>> >> >> +1 Completely agree. This is what I was trying to get at with the 'ca se >> study' as well. >> >> Instead of looking at the technical content, we went straight to gett ing >> hung up on whether a bug was triaged or not. That doesn't make sense to >> me :)
It makes sense in the context of the message we've been sending out. Right now, we have a choice: We can have dozens of patches -2d at the last minute or (worse) backed out because they broke something, or we can have one or two patches with six -1s because they weren't triaged. At this point, option #2 seems like the lesser of two evils. It's certainly not ideal, but getting a more subtle message out there is going to take time and education. Which I'm happy to do, of course. L - -- Lana Brindley Technical Writer Rackspace Cloud Builders Australia http://lanabrindley.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJWDM7CAAoJELppzVb4+KUyHO8H/2J5PcG28N0cbn9j+4bF0eki vwWfotVGZ+ZBYo0n7zpMZEKf6b4tkM6GpZakOVJxDS1zwXPeVSOEGdxjyISMHfc8 258pzYrxi5xnsbPqvd19NG57qUGnZTlblILGaAYRLPTpdasBagcwlOSJ/A+Q6Pze sDZ0kZGi8zhbMzbAo0fm64wtH7b6xVq2ME3pUI52XY9vy95aTi1Xoj9XxQ1yPqTw ymQT5ailkDZ5NR/wG0thP7R0ioyqTioCRKqKuPfJL3yGXn089N87fJD7TOescDPM W1R7ay4IVc66flDMdifDJgMNPWffqbw8SQ5I9uABELatMunFpWfwfg+MNsM36NU= =3tQa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-doc-core Post to : openstack-doc-core@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-doc-core More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
