Don't want to hijack the thread too much but... when the PTG was being sold, it was a way to get the various developers in to one place and make it cheaper to go to for devs. Now it seems to be being made into a place where each of the silo's can co'exist but not talk, and then the summit is still required to get cross project work done, so it only increases the devs cost by requiring attendance at both. This is very troubling. :/ Whats the main benefit of the PTG then?
Thanks, Kevin ________________________________________ From: Thierry Carrez [thie...@openstack.org] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 6:54 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Consistent Versioned Endpoints Sean Dague wrote: > On 01/12/2017 01:35 PM, Scott D'Angelo wrote: >> [...] >> Can we get to this "perfect world"? Let's discuss at the PTG..... >> It is my understanding that we do not have the ability to schedule a >> time or room for such a cross-project discussion. Please chime in if >> interested, and/or make your interest known to scottda, mordred, or edleafe. > > Happy to join in on this, it does seem weird there is no time / space > for such things at PTG. We'll have a room available for such inter-team discussions at the PTG. However, since only a fragment of our community will be present at the PTG, we need to be careful to avoid exclusion. Ideally we would only use that room to discuss things that are only relevant to upstream development teams, and use the "Forum" in Boston to hold truly cross-project / community-wide discussions. The typical target for the discussion room at the PTG are therefore ad-hoc discussions between PTG teams, where a separate fishbowl room makes more sense than holding it in a specific team room. As far as scheduling goes, the "discussion" room at the PTG should be available from Monday to Thursday, and scheduled in unconference-style, to give flexibility to have the discussions we need to have. Current plan is to use an ethercalc document to share the schedule. For critical discussions (which don't belong to any given room, fit the cross-section of our community present, and/or can't wait until Boston) we could totally hardcode them in the schedule for the discussion room... but we should probably keep those to a minimum and use team rooms as much as possible. How much time do you think that discussion would need ? If more than a few hours it's probably just simpler to give it a full team room. -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev