Hi Zhi:

With the L3 implementation, FWaaS acts on traffic that is seen by the router 
(we have some issues with DVR) so it is really constrained to N - S. SG will of 
course see all traffic. Once we have the FWaaS L2 implementation - it opens up 
the possibilities to be applied on a VM port and hence can see all traffic.

Thanks

Sridar

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Hi, Srider.

Thanks for your reply. I still have a question about SG and FWaaS. VM's 
east-west traffic belongs to FWaaS or SG? What about VM's north-south traffic?

I think that VM's east-west traffic belongs to SG and the north-south traffic 
belongs to FWaaS, isn't it? :)


Thanks
Zhi Chang

2016-12-20 1:45 GMT+08:00 Sridar Kandaswamy (skandasw) 
<skand...@cisco.com<mailto:skand...@cisco.com>>:
Hi Zhi:

FWaaS has been seen more as an edge (on L3 ports) use case as opposed to SG 
which is on a VM port. Also, as u can see there are differences in the 
attributes on the Rule specification at the most basic level. At this point, we 
are working thru the implementation of FWaaS on L2 ports so that makes ur 
question more relevant. At least one school of thought that we have been 
working with is that the FWaaS API can be more open and continue to evolve to 
support for instance L4-L7 use cases amongst others, but the SG API will 
continue to stay a simpler model (some have also pointed the need for SG to be 
aligned with AWS).

This is still in evolution and we would welcome participation, if u can - pls 
do drop in to our weekly team meeting [1] and we can discuss further.

Thanks

Sridar
[1] http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Firewall_as_a_Service_(FWaaS)_Team_Meeting


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Hi, Nate, thanks for your reply.

May I ask a little stupid question? What's the difference between fwaas and 
security group? In my opinion, fwaas and security group are both using linux 
iptables now. So, what's the differences between them?

Thanks
Zhi Chang

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