Ed Leafe wrote: > On Dec 12, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) <std...@cisco.com> wrote: > >> The issue raised is they violate the 4 opens. > > Not necessarily. If you have regular planning meetings and discussions in an > open manner as prescribed, an occasional conference to discuss a particular > matter is not a "violation". What if someone in your office is working on > OpenStack too, and you meet in the hallway and discuss something technical? > Does that violate the 4 Opens? > > I think we have to balance realism with idealism.
Like I said elsewhere, this is not about suppressing any type of visual or more direct interaction... It is about making sure you are not excluding anyone from a project. In the precise case we are discussing here, there are complaints from contributors to a project that recent Hangouts meetings used in the Kolla team results in them being excluded (either technically by not being able to join them, or creating additional difficulties for non-native language speakers to follow or participate in them). I'm all for giving teams a bit of flexibility in how they organize, but if the process chosen by some of the contributors is clearly excluding other contributors, falling back to a more inclusive medium (like IRC meetings) is the obvious solution. Jeffrey took the hard step of raising the issue, I don't think ignoring his point and pretending Hangout meetings are just fine will get you anywhere. -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
