Le 29/08/2016 13:25, Jay Pipes a écrit :
On 08/26/2016 09:20 AM, Ed Leafe wrote:
On Aug 25, 2016, at 3:19 PM, Andrew Laski <and...@lascii.com> wrote:

One other thing to note is that while a flavor constrains how much local
disk is used it does not constrain volume size at all. So a user can
specify an ephemeral/swap disk <= to what the flavor provides but can
have an arbitrary sized root disk if it's a remote volume.

This kind of goes to the heart of the argument against flavors being the sole source of truth for a request. As cloud evolves, we keep packing more and more stuff into a concept that was originally meant to only divide up resources that came bundled together (CPU, RAM, and local disk). This hasn’t been a good solution for years, and the sooner we start accepting that a request can be much more complex than a flavor can adequately express, the better.

If we have decided that remote volumes are a good thing (I don’t think there’s any argument there), then we should treat that part of the request as being as fundamental as a flavor. We need to make the scheduler smarter so that it doesn’t rely on flavor as being the only source of truth.

The first step to improving Nova is admitting we have a problem. :)

FWIW, I agree with you on the above. The issue I had with the proposed patches was that they would essentially be a hack for a short period of time until the resource providers work standardized the way that DISK_GB resources were tracked -- including for providers of shared disk storage.

I've long felt that flavors as a concept should be, as Chris so adeptly wrote, "UI furniture" and should be decomposed into their requisite lists of resource amounts, required traits and preferred traits and that those decomposed parts are what should be passed to the Compute API, not a flavor ID.

But again, we're actively changing all this code in the resource providers and qualitative traits patches so I warned about adding more code that was essentially just a short-lived hack. I'd be OK adding the hack code if there were some big bright WARNINGs placed in there that likely the code would be removed in Ocata.


While :
#1 the first change about setting root_gb equals 0 in RequestSpec for making sure BFV instances are correctly using the DiskFilter is fine by me having it merged with a TODO/FIXME saying that the code would be expired once the scheduler uses the resource providers, #2, then the second patch about trying to look at the BDMs for DiskFilter is very wrong by me, because the Compute API shouldn't accept IMHO to ask for a flavor *and* a BDM with a related disk size different from the flavor. AFAIT, we should return a 40x (probably 409 or 400) for that instead of accepting it silently.

-Sylvain


-jay

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