On 01/08/16 10:28 -0400, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Sean,

So we will programatically test the metrics (if we are not doing that
already) to apply/remove "team:single-vendor" tag:

https://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/team_single-vendor.html

And trigger exit when the tag is present for more than 3 cycles in a
row (say as of release date?)

We update these tags frequently enough and yes, I guess it would be possible to
programmatically check for how long a project has had the single-vendor tag.

Flavio

Thanks,
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On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Sean Dague <s...@dague.net> wrote:
On 08/01/2016 09:58 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Thierry, Ben, Doug,

How can we distinguish between. "Project is doing the right thing, but
others are not joining" vs "Project is actively trying to keep people
out"?

I think at some level, it's not really that different. If we treat them
as different, everyone will always believe they did all the right
things, but got no results. 3 cycles should be plenty of time to drop
single entity contributions below 90%. That means prioritizing bugs /
patches from outside groups (to drop below 90% on code commits),
mentoring every outside member that provides feedback (to drop below 90%
on reviews), shifting development resources towards mentoring / docs /
on ramp exercises for others in the community (to drop below 90% on core
team).

Digging out of a single vendor status is hard, and requires making that
your top priority. If teams aren't interested in putting that ahead of
development work, that's fine, but that doesn't make it a sustainable
OpenStack project.

        -Sean

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