Having read through the full thread I'm still in support of separate repos. I think the explanations Jeff Peeler and Adam Young have put forward summarise my thoughts very well.

One of the main arguments I seem to be hearing for a single repo is Git tooling which I don't think is a good one; we should do what's best for users and devs, not for tools.

Also as the guys pointed out, multiple repos are the most common pattern across OpenStack. I think it will help keep a better separation of concerns. Otherwise in my experience you start to get cross contamination of the projects, to the point where it becomes extremely difficult to pull them apart.

The images, ansible, and k8n need to be separate. The alternative is not scalable.

Thanks,
-Paul

On 03/05/16 00:39, Angus Salkeld wrote:
On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 7:07 AM Steven Dake (stdake) <std...@cisco.com
<mailto:std...@cisco.com>> wrote:

    Ryan had rightly pointed out that when we made the original proposal
    9am morning we had asked folks if they wanted to participate in a
    separate repository.

    I don't think a separate repository is the correct approach based
    upon one off private conversations with folks at summit.  Many
    people from that list approached me and indicated they would like to
    see the work integrated in one repository as outlined in my vote
    proposal email.  The reasons I heard were:

      * Better integration of the community
      * Better integration of the code base
      * Doesn't present an us vs them mentality that one could argue
        happened during kolla-mesos
      * A second repository makes k8s a second class citizen deployment
        architecture without a voice in the full deployment methodology
      * Two gating methods versus one
      * No going back to a unified repository while preserving git history

    I favor of the separate repositories I heard

      * It presents a unified workspace for kubernetes alone
      * Packaging without ansible is simpler as the ansible directory
        need not be deleted

    There were other complaints but not many pros.  Unfortunately I
    failed to communicate these complaints to the core team prior to the
    vote, so now is the time for fixing that.

    I'll leave it open to the new folks that want to do the work if they
    want to work on an offshoot repository and open us up to the
    possible problems above.


+1 to the separate repo

I think the separate repo worked very well for us and would encourage
you to replicate that again. Having one repo doing one thing makes the
goal of the repo obvious and makes the api between the images and
deployment clearer (also the stablity of that
api and things like permissions *cough* drop-root).

-Angus


    If you are on this list:

      * Ryan Hallisey
      * Britt Houser

      * mark casey

      * Steven Dake (delta-alpha-kilo-echo)

      * Michael Schmidt

      * Marian Schwarz

      * Andrew Battye

      * Kevin Fox (kfox1111)

      * Sidharth Surana (ssurana)

      *   Michal Rostecki (mrostecki)

      *    Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap)

      *    MD NADEEM (mail2nadeem92)

      *    Vikram Hosakote (vhosakot)

      *    Jeff Peeler (jpeeler)

      *    Martin Andre (mandre)

      *    Ian Main (Slower)

      * Hui Kang (huikang)

      * Serguei Bezverkhi (sbezverk)

      * Alex Polvi (polvi)

      * Rob Mason

      * Alicja Kwasniewska

      * sean mooney (sean-k-mooney)

      * Keith Byrne (kbyrne)

      * Zdenek Janda (xdeu)

      * Brandon Jozsa (v1k0d3n)

      * Rajath Agasthya (rajathagasthya)
      * Jinay Vora
      * Hui Kang
      * Davanum Srinivas



    Please speak up if you are in favor of a separate repository or a
    unified repository.

    The core reviewers will still take responsibility for determining if
    we proceed on the action of implementing kubernetes in general.

    Thank you
    -steve
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