On 03/01/2016 09:03 AM, Anita Kuno wrote:
On 03/01/2016 05:08 AM, Eoghan Glynn wrote:

In Vancouver I happened to be sitting behind someone who stated "I'm
just here for the buzz." Which is lovely for that person. The problem is
that the buzz that person is there for is partially created by me and I
create it and mean to offer it to people who will return it in kind, not
just soak it up and keep it to themselves.

I don't know if drive-by attendance at design summit sessions by under-
qualified or uninformed summiteers is encouraged by the availability of
ATC passes. But as long as those individuals aren't actively derailing
the conversation in sessions, I wouldn't consider their buzz soakage as
a major issue TBH.

Folks who want to help (even if they don't know how yet) carry an energy
of intention with them which is nourishing to be around. Folks who are
trying to get in the door and not be expected to help and hope noone
notices carry an entirely different kind of energy with them. It is a
non-nourishing energy.

Personally I don't buy into that notion of the wrong sort of people
sneaking in the door of summit, keeping their heads down and hoping
no-one notices.

<snip>

TBH we should be flattered that the design
summit sessions are interesting and engaging enough to also attract
some of that sort of audience, as well as the core contributors of
code. If those interested folks happen to also have the gumption to
earn an ATC pass by meeting the threshold for contributor activity,
then good for them! As long as no-one is actively derailing the
discussion, I don't see much of an issue with the current mix of
attendees.

Yeah, I don't feel you have understood what my point is, and that is
fine. We did put forward an attempt to communicate and it failed. We
will have other opportunities on other issues in the future.

I don't think it's so much a failure to communicate, but rather simply a failure to arrive at a consensus. As I see it, Eoghan understands your point but does not feel the same way.

Chris

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