LOL Tom :) -- Dims
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 2:32 AM, Tom Fifield <t...@openstack.org> wrote: > On 14/01/16 15:22, Andreas Jaeger wrote: >> >> On 2016-01-14 08:13, Tom Fifield wrote: >>> >>> So, I'm prompted by another 20 oslo release emails to dredge up this >>> thread :) >>> >>> There appears to be broad consensus that those shouldn't be going to the >>> announce list ... what do we need to do to get that to change to posted >>> to "-dev + batched inside the weekly -dev digest from thingee" as >>> Thierry suggested? >> >> >> So, those 20 odd olso release emails all went to -dev, the release team >> changed the logic, see also >> >> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/083749.html > > > Apologies to all. Maybe its time to visit the optometrist for me ... I > haven't been once in my life yet, could be scary :) > > > >> Not sure about the "Batching inside the weekly digest from thingee", >> >> Andreas >> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> On 14/12/15 17:12, Tom Fifield wrote: >>>> >>>> ... and back to this thread after a few weeks :) >>>> >>>> The conclusions I saw were: >>>> * Audience for openstack-announce should be "users/non-dev" >>>> * Service project releases announcements are good >>>> * Client library release announcements good >>>> * Security announcements are good >>>> * Internal library (particularly oslo) release announcements don't fit >>>> >>>> Open Questions: >>>> * Where do Internal library release announcements go? [-dev or new >>>> -release list or batched inside the weekly newsletter] >>>> * Do SDK releases fit on -announce? >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> >>>> On 20/11/15 12:00, Tom Fifield wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to get your thoughts about the OpenStack-Announce list. >>>>> >>>>> We describe the list as: >>>>> >>>>> """ >>>>> Subscribe to this list to receive important announcements from the >>>>> OpenStack Release Team and OpenStack Security Team. >>>>> >>>>> This is a low-traffic, read-only list. >>>>> """ >>>>> >>>>> Up until July 2015, it was used for the following: >>>>> * Community Weekly Newsletter >>>>> * Stable branch release notifications >>>>> * Major (i.e. Six-monthly) release notifications >>>>> * Important security advisories >>>>> >>>>> and had on average 5-10 messages per month. >>>>> >>>>> After July 2015, the following was added: >>>>> * Release notifications for clients and libraries (one email per >>>>> library, includes contributor-focused projects) >>>>> >>>>> resulting in an average of 70-80 messages per month. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Personally, I no longer consider this volume "low traffic" :) >>>>> >>>>> In addition, I have been recently receiving feedback that users have >>>>> been unsubscribing from or deleting without reading the list's posts. >>>>> >>>>> That isn't good news, given this is supposed to be the place where we >>>>> can make very important announcements and have them read. >>>>> >>>>> One simple suggestion might be to batch the week's client/library >>>>> release notifications into a single email. Another might be to look at >>>>> the audience for the list, what kind of notifications they want, and >>>>> chose the announcements differently. >>>>> >>>>> What do you think we should do to ensure the announce list remains >>>>> useful? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> __________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >>>>> Unsubscribe: >>>>> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >>>> Unsubscribe: >>>> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >>> Unsubscribe: >>> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>> >> >> > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Davanum Srinivas :: https://twitter.com/dims __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
