On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 02:41:12PM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: > On 01/07/2016 02:09 PM, Jim Rollenhagen wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > A change to global-requirements[1] introduces mimic, which is an http > > server that can mock various APIs, including nova and ironic, including > > control of error codes and timeouts. The ironic team plans to use this > > for testing python-ironicclient without standing up a full ironic > > environment. > > > > Here's the catch - mimic is built on twisted. I know twisted was > > previously removed from OpenStack (or at least people said "pls no", I > > don't know the full history). We didn't intend to stealth-introduce > > twisted back into g-r, but it was pointed out to me that it may appear > > this way, so here I am letting everyone know. lifeless pointed out that > > when tests are failing, people may end up digging into mimic or twisted > > code, which most people in this community aren't familiar with AFAIK, > > which is a valid point though I hope it isn't required often. > > > > So, the primary question here is: do folks have a problem with adding > > twisted here? We're holding off on Ironic changes that depend on this > > until this discussion has happened, but aren't reverting the g-r change > > until we decide one way or another. > > > > // jim > > > > [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220268/ > > What is the advantage of running another server like this over using > requests-mock (which is used by other OpenStack projects for testing > today)? The only difference here seems to be that you actually execute > requests code in one case and not in the other. > > Requests-mock debugging when things go wrong seems a bit simpler. > > This is less about twisted and more about trying to not introduce yet > another way to mock code in the tree that people need to understand. > > -Sean
We'd be using this for functional tests, not unit, where we can't really inject mocks. The idea is that we could run a full functional suite against either mimic or a full ironic environment, just by changing a test setting. // jim __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev