On 2015-10-09 14:58:36 +0100 (+0100), Cory Benfield wrote: [...] > IMO, what OpenStack needs is a decision about where it’s getting > its packages from, and then to refuse to mix the two.
I have yet to find a Python-based operating system installable in whole via pip. There will always be _at_least_some_ packages you install from your operating system's package management. What you seem to be missing is that Linux distros are now shipping base images which include their python-requests and python-urllib3 packages already pre-installed as dependencies of Python-based tools they deem important to their users. To work around this in our test infrastructure we're effectively abandoning all hope of using distro-provided server images, and building our own from scratch to avoid the possibility that they may bring with them their own versions of any Python libraries whatsoever. We're at the point where we're basically maintaining our own derivative Linux distributions. The web of dependencies in OpenStack has reached a level of complexity where it's guaranteed to overlap with just about any pre-installed python-.* packages in a distro-supplied image. We're only now reaching the point where our Python dependencies actually all function within the context of a virtualenv without needing system-site-packages contamination, so the next logical step is probably to see if virtualenv isolation is possible for frameworks like DevStack (the QA team may already be trying to figure that out, I'm not sure). -- Jeremy Stanley __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev