>From: ext Chris Friesen [mailto:chris.frie...@windriver.com] 
>Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 6:09 PM
>To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
>Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Service group foundations and features
>
>On 05/11/2015 07:13 AM, Attila Fazekas wrote:
>>> From: "John Garbutt" <j...@johngarbutt.com>
>
>>> * From the RPC api point of view, do we want to send a cast to
>>> something that we know is dead, maybe we want to? Should we wait for
>>> calls to timeout, or give up quicker?
>>
>> How to fail sooner:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+bug/1437955
>>
>> We do not need a dedicated is_up just for this.
>
>Is that really going to help?  As I understand it if nova-compute dies (or is 
>isolated) then the queue remains present on the server but nothing will 
>process 
>messages from it.
>
>Chris

for queued messages if the forced_down proposed in 
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169836/ is set to true, "I'm up" message 
should be ignored until this forced_down is cleared as this flag is there also 
to prevent service state to turn 'up'. So flag is there to have fast way to 
state service is down to enable evacuate (prevent scheduling VM to host..), but 
also to prevent invalid state. Even abort nova-compute startup as mentioned in 
review comments. This should make things quite safe.

-Tomi

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