On 20/04/15 14:08 +0000, Fox, Kevin M wrote:
RDO packaging would go a long way for us.Also what about oslo support? We have a second rabbit for sahara/trove/ designate for reasons I wont get into here on one cloud that could just be made to use Zaqar instead?
This is exactly the kind of adoption we're looking forward to. I don't think there'll be support for Zaqar in oslo.messaging - they simply have different goals - but Zaqar would be a good fit for the use-cases that sahara, trove and designate have (I believe we're talking about agents communication). This call, however, belongs to the project's owners and maintainers. Since I believe Zaqar is a good project for OpenStack and I know there are folks - like yourself - that believe so too, I'm raising this warn so that people know what might happen to the project if it doesn't get some help from "the inner-outside world"
I do believe Zaqar is very important. Its been a long bumpy road, but you folks are doing a great job. Dont loose heart.
Thanks :) Flavio
Thanks, Kevin ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ From: Flavio Percoco Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 5:54:54 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Call for adoption (or exclusion?) Greetings, I'd like my first action as Zaqar's PTL to be based on reflections and transparency with regards to what our past has been, to what our present is and to what our future could be as a project and community. Therefore, I'm sending this call for adoption and support before taking other actions (also mentioned below). The summit is very close and the Zaqar team is looking forward to it. The upcoming summit represents an important opportunity for Zaqar to integrate with other projects. In the previous summits - since Icehouse's - we've been collecting feedback from the community. We've worked on addressing the many use-cases, we've worked on addressing the concerns raised by the community and we've also kept moving towards reaching the project's goals. As you all know, the project has gone through many ups and downs. We've had some "failures" in the past and we've also had successes, as a project and as a team. Nevertheless, we've got to the point where it doesn't make much sense to keep pushing new features to the project until it gains adoption. Therefore, I'd like to take advantage of the workshop slots and invite people from other projects to help us/guide us through a hacking session on their projects so we can help with the adoption. The current adoption of Zaqar consist in: - 1 company reachingunning it in production - 1 planning to do it soon - RDO support Unfortunately, the above is certainly not enough for a project to succeed and it makes the time and effort spent on the project not worth it. It's been more than 2 years since we kicked the project off and it's time for it to show some results. The current problem seems to be that many people want the project but no one wants to be the first in adopting Zaqar (which kind of invalidates the premises of the "Big tent"). In summary, this is a call for adoption before we call it a nice adventure and ask for the project to be excluded from the OpenStack organization based on the lack of adoption and contributions. If you think it's worth it, speak up. Either way, thanks for the support and for reading thus far. On behalf of the Zaqar team, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco
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