Also please note that the interface still allows for adding shared support.  
It’s not just in the first implementation.

Thanks,
doug


> On Feb 4, 2015, at 5:15 PM, Phillip Toohill <phillip.tooh...@rackspace.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Sharing/reusing pools is a planned future feature. We are currently trying to 
> work towards getting something released and having shared pools would extend 
> that timeline to not meet our expectations. 
> 
> From: Vijay Venkatachalam <vijay.venkatacha...@citrix.com 
> <mailto:vijay.venkatacha...@citrix.com>>
> Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" 
> <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org <mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>>
> Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 12:19 PM
> To: "doug...@parkside.io <mailto:doug...@parkside.io>" <doug...@parkside.io 
> <mailto:doug...@parkside.io>>, "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for 
> usage questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org 
> <mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>>
> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] Can entity calls be made to 
> driver when entities get associated/disassociated with root entity?
> 
>  
> Thanks Doug.
>  
> My apologies for the delayed reply.
>  
> The change is merged, so replying here.
>  
> It is a welcome change in one way, there is always a root entity now in 
> perspective while creating any entity.
> Listener is created with loadbalancer and pool is created with listener.
> The problem itself is eliminated because there is no DEFERRED stage.
>  
> But, this restricts pool in one listener. Basically reusing of a pools across 
> listeners and loadbalancers is not possible now.
>  
> The use case of creating both a HTTPS vip and HTTP vip for the same pool is 
> lost.
>  
> Basically, a user who will need that, should create 2 pools with the same 
> members and manage them. Is that right?
>  
> Thanks,
> Vijay V.
>  
>  
> From: Doug Wiegley [mailto:doug...@parksidesoftware.com 
> <mailto:doug...@parksidesoftware.com>] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:03 PM
> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] Can entity calls be made to 
> driver when entities get associated/disassociated with root entity?
>  
> I’d recommend taking a look at Brandon’s review: 
> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144834/ 
> <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144834/>
>  
> which aims to simplify exactly what you’re describing. Please leave feedback 
> there.
>  
> Thanks,
> doug
>  
>  
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Vijay Venkatachalam 
> <vijay.venkatacha...@citrix.com <mailto:vijay.venkatacha...@citrix.com>> 
> wrote:
>> Hi:
>>  
>> In OpenStack neutron lbaas implementation, when entities are created/updated 
>> by the user, they might not be associated with the root entity, which is 
>> loadbalancer.
>> Since root entity has the driver information, the driver cannot be called by 
>> lbaas plugin during these operations by user.
>> Such entities are set in DEFFERED status until the entity is associated with 
>> root entity.
>> During this association operation (listener created with pool), the driver 
>> api is called for the current operation (listener create); and the driver is 
>> expected to perform the original operation (pool create) along with the 
>> current operation (listener create).
>> This leads to complex handling at the driver, I think it will be better for 
>> the lbaas plugin to call the original operation (pool create) driver API in 
>> addition to the current operation (listener create) API during the 
>> association operation.
>>  
>> That is the summary, please read on to understand the situation in detail.
>>  
>> Let’s take the example of pool create in driver.
>>  
>> a.       A pool create operation will not translate to a pool create api in 
>> the driver. There is a pool create in the driver API but that is never 
>> called today.
>> b.      When a listener is created with loadbalancer and pool, the driver’s 
>> listener create api is called and the driver is expected to create both pool 
>> and listener.
>> c.       When a listener is first created without loadbalancer but with a 
>> pool, the call does not reach driver. Later when the listener is updated 
>> with loadbalancer id,  the drivers listener update  API is called and the 
>> driver is expected to create both pool and listener.
>> d.  When a listener configured with pool and loadbalancer is updated with 
>> new pool id,  the driver’s listener update api is called. The driver is 
>> expected to delete the original pool that was associated, create the new 
>> pool and  also update the listener
>>   
>> As you can see this is leading to a quite a bit of handling in the driver 
>> code. This makes driver code complex.
>>  
>> How about handling this logic in lbaas plugin and it can call the “natural” 
>> functions that were deferred.
>>  
>> Whenever an entity is going from a DEFERRED to ACTIVE/CREATE status (through 
>> whichever workflow) the plugin can call the CREATE pool function of the 
>> driver.
>> Whenever an entity is going from an ACTIVE/CREATED to DEFERRED status 
>> (through whichever workflow) the plugin can call the DELETE pool function of 
>> the driver.
>>  
>> Thanks,
>> Vijay V.
>> 
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