Good to know, thanks for clarifying. One thing I’m still fuzzy on, however, is 
why we want to deprecate use of UUID tokens in the first place? I’m just trying 
to understand the history here...

From: Morgan Fainberg 
<morgan.fainb...@gmail.com<mailto:morgan.fainb...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: OpenStack Dev 
<openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>>
Date: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 at 1:23 PM
To: OpenStack Dev 
<openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>>
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Concerns about the ballooning size of keystone 
tokens

This is part of what I was referencing in regards to lightening the data stored 
in the token. Ideally, we would like to see an "ID only" token that only 
contains the basic information to act. Some initial tests show these tokens 
should be able to clock in under 1k in size. However all the details are not 
fully defined yet. Coupled with this data reduction there will be explicit 
definitions of the data that is meant to go into the tokens. Some of the data 
we have now is a result of convenience of accessing the data.

I hope to have this token change available during Juno development cycle.

There is a lot of work to be done to ensure this type of change goes smoothly. 
But this is absolutely on the list of things we would like to address.

Cheers,
Morgan

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On Wednesday, May 21, 2014, Kurt Griffiths 
<kurt.griffi...@rackspace.com<mailto:kurt.griffi...@rackspace.com>> wrote:
> adding another ~10kB to each request, just to save a once-a-day call to
>Keystone (ie uuid tokens) seems to be a really high price to pay for not
>much benefit.

I have the same concern with respect to Marconi. I feel like KPI tokens
are fine for control plane APIs, but don’t work so well for high-volume
data APIs where every KB counts.

Just my $0.02...

--Kurt

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