On 08/30/2018 08:28 AM, Honza Pokorny wrote: > Hello! > > Over the last few months, it seems that tripleo-quickstart has evolved > into a CI tool. It's primarily used by computers, and not humans. > tripleo-quickstart is a helpful set of ansible playbooks, and a > collection of feature sets. However, it's become less useful for > setting up development environments by humans. For example, devmode.sh > was recently deprecated without a user-friendly replacement. Moreover, > during some informal irc conversations in #oooq, some developers even > mentioned the plan to merge tripleo-quickstart and tripleo-ci. > > I think it would be beneficial to create a set of defaults for > tripleo-quickstart that can be used to spin up new environments; a set > of defaults for humans. This can either be a well-maintained script in > tripleo-quickstart itself, or a brand new project, e.g. > tripleo-quickstart-humans. The number of settings, knobs, and flags > should be kept to a minimum. > > This would accomplish two goals: > > 1. It would bring uniformity to the team. Each environment is > installed the same way. When something goes wrong, we can > eliminate differences in setup when debugging. This should save a > lot of time. > > 2. Quicker and more reliable environment setup. If the set of defaults > is used by many people, it should container fewer bugs because more > people using something should translate into more bug reports, and > more bug fixes. > > These thoughts are coming from the context of tripleo-ui development. I > need an environment in order to develop, but I don't necessarily always > care about how it's installed. I want something that works for most > scenarios. > > What do you think? Does this make sense? Does something like this > already exist? > > Thanks for listening! > > Honza > > __________________________________________________________________________ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > Thanks for bringing this up, Honza. If something like this does exist, please share. Otherwise, we're moving further and further away from Quickstart being useful for Devs which is a problem for the entire community, in my opinion.
-J -- Jason E. Rist Senior Software Engineer OpenStack User Interfaces Red Hat, Inc. Freenode: jrist github/twitter: knowncitizen __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
