How about add to our biannual questionnaire how often customer upgrade their 
openstack environment?

-----Original Message-----
From: Thierry Carrez [mailto:thie...@openstack.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:20 PM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Switching to longer development cycles

Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:13 PM, Tim Bell <tim.b...@cern.ch> wrote:
> 
>> There is a risk that deployment to production is delayed, and therefore 
>> feedback is delayed and the wait for the ‘initial bug fixes before we deploy 
>> to prod’ gets longer.
> 
> There is always a rush at the Feature Freeze point in a cycle to get things 
> in, or they will be delayed for 6 months. With the year-long cycle, now 
> anything missing Feature Freeze will be delayed by a year. The long cycle 
> also means that a lot more time will be spent backporting things to the 
> current release, since people won’t be able to wait a whole year for some 
> improvements.
> 
> Maybe it’s just the dev in me, but I prefer shorter cycles (CD, anyone?).

Yes, I'll admit I'm struggling with that part of the proposal too. We could use 
intermediary releases but there would always be a "more important" release.

Is the "rush" at the end of the cycle still a thing those days ? From a release 
management perspective it felt like the pressure was reduced in recent cycles, 
with less and less FFEs. But that may be that PTLs have gotten better at 
denying them, not that the pressure is reduced now that we are past the hype 
peak...

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Thierry Carrez (ttx)

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