I completely agree with you here John. I still prefer to use screen for my devstack installs, it's just far far easier to use for development. systemd is a pain to use in comparison. This is a major step backwards for developers.
:( On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 1:29 PM, John Griffith <john.griffi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Please don't, some of us have no issues with screen and use it extensively > for debugging. Unless there's a viable option using systemd I fail to > understand why this is such a big deal. I've been using devstack in screen > for a long time without issue, and I still use rejoin that supposedly > didn't work (without issue). > > I completely get the "run like customers" but in theory I'm not sure how > screen makes it much different than what customers do, it's executing the > same binary at the end of the day. I'd also ask then is devstack no longer > "dev" stack, but now a preferred method of install for running production > clouds? Anyway, I'd just ask to leave it as an option, unless there's > equivalent options for things like using pdb etc. It's annoying enough > that we lost that capability for the API services, is there a possibility > we can reconsider not allowing this an option? > > Thanks, > John > > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Davanum Srinivas <dava...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> w00t! >> >> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:45 AM, Sean Dague <s...@dague.net> wrote: >> > On 08/31/2017 06:27 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> >> The work that started last cycle to make devstack only have a single >> >> execution mode, that was the same between automated QA and local, is >> >> nearing it's completion. >> >> >> >> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499186/ is the patch that will remove >> >> screen from devstack (which was only left as a fall back for things >> like >> >> grenade during Pike). Tests are currently passing on all the gating >> jobs >> >> for it. And experimental looks mostly useful. >> >> >> >> The intent is to merge this in about a week (right before PTG). So, if >> >> you have a complicated devstack plugin you think might be affected by >> >> this (and were previously making jobs pretend to be grenade to keep >> >> screen running), now is the time to run tests against this patch and >> see >> >> where things stand. >> > >> > This patch is in the gate and now merging, and with it devstack now has >> > a single run mode, using systemd units, which is the same between test >> > and development. >> > >> > Thanks to everyone helping with the transition! >> > >> > -Sean >> > >> > -- >> > Sean Dague >> > http://dague.net >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________ >> ______________ >> > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.op >> enstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> >> >> >> -- >> Davanum Srinivas :: https://twitter.com/dims >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> ______________ >> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscrib >> e >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > >
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