On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 02:33:40PM +0000, Randall Burt wrote:
> 
> On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Steven Hardy <sha...@redhat.com>
>  wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:23:20PM -0400, Lakshminaraya Renganarayana wrote:
> >> A few us at IBM studied Steve Baker's proposal on HOT Software
> >> Configuration. Overall the proposed constructs and syntax are great -- we
> >> really like the clean syntax and concise specification of components. We
> >> would like to propose a few minor extensions that help with better
> >> expression of dependencies among components and resources, and in-turn
> >> enable cross-vm coordination. We have captured our thoughts on this on the
> >> following Wiki page
> >> 
> >> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/hot-software-config-ibm-response
> > 
> > Thanks for putting this together.  I'll post inline below with cut/paste
> > from the wiki followed by my response/question:
> > 
> >> E2: Allow usage of component outputs (similar to resources):
> >> There are fundamental differences between components and resources...
> > 
> > So... lately I've been thinking this is not actually true, and that
> > components are really just another type of resource.  If we can implement
> > the software-config functionality without inventing a new template
> > abstraction, IMO a lot of the issues described in your wiki page no longer
> > exist.
> > 
> > Can anyone provide me with a clear argument for what the "fundamental
> > differences" actually are?
> > 
> > My opinion is we could do the following:
> > - Implement software config "components" as ordinary resources, using the
> >  existing interfaces (perhaps with some enhancements to dependency
> >  declaration)
> > - Give OS::Nova::Server a components property, which simply takes a list of
> >  resources which describe the software configuration(s) to be applied
> 
> I see the appeal here, but I'm leaning toward having the components define 
> the resources they apply to rather than extending the interfaces of every 
> compute-related resource we have or may have in the future. True, this may 
> make things trickier in some respects with regard to bootstrapping the 
> compute resource, but then again, don't most configuration management systems 
> work on active compute instances?

What "every" though?  Don't we have exactly one compute resource,
OS::Nova::Server?  (I'm assuming this functionality won't be available via
AWS compatible Instance resource)

Steve

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