On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Sean Dague <s...@dague.net> wrote: > On 10/23/2013 10:40 AM, John Griffith wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Sean Dague <s...@dague.net >> <mailto:s...@dague.net>> wrote: >> >> Dave Kranz has been building a system so that we can ensure that >> during a Tempest run services don't spew ERRORs in the logs. >> Eventually, we're going to gate on this, because there is nothing >> that Tempest does to the system that should cause any OpenStack >> service to ERROR or stack trace (Errors should actually be >> exceptional events that something is wrong with the system, not >> regular events). >> >> >> So I have to disagree with the approach being taken here. Particularly >> in the case of Cinder and the negative tests that are in place. When I >> read this last week I assumed you actually meant that "Exceptions" were >> exceptional and nothing in Tempest should cause Exceptions. It turns >> out you apparently did mean Errors. I completely disagree here, Errors >> happen, some are recovered, some are expected by the tests etc. Having >> a policy and especially a gate that says NO ERROR MESSAGE in logs makes >> absolutely no sense to me. >> >> Something like NO TRACE/EXCEPTION MESSAGE in logs I can agree with, but >> this makes no sense to me. By the way, here's a perfect example: >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/**cinder/+bug/1243485<https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1243485> >> >> As long as we have Tempest tests that do things like "show non-existent >> volume" you're going to get an Error message and I think that you should >> quite frankly. >> > > Ok, I guess that's where we probably need to clarify what "Not Found" is. > Because "Not Found" to me seems like it should be a request at INFO level, > not ERROR. >
> ERROR from an admin perspective should really be something that would > suitable for sending an alert to an administrator for them to come and fix > the cloud. > > TRACE is actually a lower level of severity in our log systems than ERROR > is. Sorry, by Trace I was referring to unhandled stack/exception trace messages in the logs. > > > -Sean > > -- > Sean Dague > http://dague.net > > ______________________________**_________________ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.**org <OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org> > http://lists.openstack.org/**cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**openstack-dev<http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev> >
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