Hey Liz,

I briefly brought up horizontal navigation in the IRC meeting last week. I 
agree, first of all, that Left Nav will run into scaling issues at some point 
but I think Gabriel Hurley made a good point in that doing something as drastic 
as getting rid of the Left Nav and replacing it with Horizontal navigation in 
H3 may not be a good idea.

I would vote to see mockups for both, but maybe with the intention of releasing 
an upgraded Left Nav for Havana and working on something more drastic for 
Icehouse. I agree from a design perspective that horizontal nav is much more 
versatile and should probably be the end goal at some point in the future.

Thanks,
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From: Liz Blanchard <lsure...@redhat.com<mailto:lsure...@redhat.com>>
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Date: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Navigation UX Enhancements - Collecting 
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On Jul 19, 2013, at 3:34 AM, Jaromir Coufal 
<jcou...@redhat.com<mailto:jcou...@redhat.com>> wrote:

Hi Jeff,

thanks for contribution. As long as there is no more input in gathering issues, 
I'll try to wrap all the problems up in BP's whiteboard and we can start 
designing proposals.

Best
-- Jarda

Hi Jarda,

Thanks for taking this blueprint on! I'm happy to help out in the design space 
as well as it continues to move forward.

One thing I've been a bit concerned about is the left hand navigation. 
Left-handed navigation takes up a fair amount of prime working real-estate and 
the user would gain a lot of primary work space if this were moved to the top 
of the page and horizontally placed. Also, I think that having horizontal 
navigation would make it much easier as we continue to design for more than 1 
level. It feels like the left-hand navigation doesn't scale very well when it 
acts like the primary navigation. There is an article that was written by Louis 
Lazaris in 2010 that I think is a really good read when it comes to this 
discussion:
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/01/11/the-case-against-vertical-navigation/

I'm definitely interested in what others think on this topic!

Thanks again,
Liz


On 2013/09/07 16:09, Walls, Jeffrey Joel (HP Converged Cloud - Cloud OS) wrote:
One issue I have is that the panels are physically grouped and it’s very 
difficult to logically re-group them.  For example, the Project dashboard 
explicitly lists the panel groups and the order of those panel groups.  Within 
each panel group, the individual panels are also explicitly listed.  What I 
would like to do is arrange the panels more logically without affecting the 
physical structure of the files or the order in the panel specification.

You could think of “Deployment” as a “section” under the Project dashboard tab. 
 In this “section”, I’d want to see things related to the actual deployment of 
virtual machines (e.g., Instances, Snapshots, Networks, Routers, etc).  I was 
beginning to tackle this in our code base and was planning to use some sort of 
accordion-type widget.  My thinking was that there would be “a few” (probably 
no more than 4) “sections” under the Project tab.  Each “section” would have 
elements within it that logically mapped to that section.

I think this is a great discussion and I’m very interested to hear where others 
are headed with their thinking, so thank you for getting it started!

Jeff

From: Jaromir Coufal [mailto:jcou...@redhat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 6:38 AM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List
Subject: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Navigation UX Enhancements - Collecting 
Issues

Hi everybody,

in UX community group on G+ popped out a need for enhancing user experience of 
main navigation, because there are spreading out various issues .

There is already created a BP for this: 
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/navigation-enhancement

Toshi had great idea to start discussion about navigation issues on mailing 
list.

So I'd like to ask all of you, if you have some issues with navigation, what 
are the issues you are dealing with? I'd like to gather as much feedback as 
possible, so we can design the best solution which covers most of the cases. 
Issues will be listed in BP and I will try to come out with design proposals 
which hopefully will help all of you.

Examples are following:
* Navigation is not scaling for more dashboards (Project, Admin, ...)
* Each dashboard might contain different hierarchy (number of levels)

What problems do you experience with navigation?

Thanks all for contributing
-- Jarda



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