> From: owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org [mailto:owner-openssl- > us...@openssl.org] On Behalf Of Salz, Rich > Sent: Tuesday, 09 September, 2014 11:35 > To: openssl-users@openssl.org > Subject: RE: Value of DEFAULT cipher suite > > > Far more productive than disabling RC4 would be ensuring that it is not the > > preferred cipher suite when better options are enabled. > > I am not disabling RC4. I am saying that applications that want to use it > will, after the post-1.0.2 release is adopted, need to take pro-active > action.
Which is tantamount to disabling it, for any applications that: - Link OpenSSL dynamically and don't set a non-default cipher suite list - Are rebuilt with the new OpenSSL but aren't changed to set a non-default cipher suite list You're talking about violating the Principle of Least Surprise, which is rarely a good idea. > This follows the current thinking of the IETF. Glossing "what's currently in an I-D" as "the current thinking of the IETF" is quite a stretch. And UTA applies to *applications*, not to libraries. And personally I think UTA is somewhat misguided, particularly in its excessive use of RFC 2119 conditional-compliance ("MUST") requirements in sections that the text refers to as "recommendations"; and I'm not convinced the authors have done a good job of considering the ramifications. As for the PRC4 I-D: It too applies to applications; and unless OpenSSL is going to enforce the final requirement of part 2 ("the TLS server MUST terminate the handshake"), I can't see how you can claim your proposed change is "following" the I-D. Without that final requirement, the other two are potentially more dangerous than allowing RC4. > It's just being standards-compliant. Which standard are we talking about? In your other message you cited to I-Ds, which are NOT standards. -- Michael Wojcik Technology Specialist, Micro Focus This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ______________________________________________________________________ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List openssl-users@openssl.org Automated List Manager majord...@openssl.org