Steve, 

Thanks for reply. It's the answer I was hoping to receive. 
No problem on the rant. I can appreciate the point of view. 

David


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org [mailto:owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org] 
On Behalf Of Steve Marquess
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:18 AM
To: openssl-users@openssl.org
Subject: Re: openssl FIPS 140-2 certificate after 2010

David Stafford wrote:
> What are the issues, if any, with using the "FIPS module" after the
> end of 2010 ?
> Does the certificate number 1051 become invalid ?
>   

My best guess at this point is that the OpenSSL FIPS Object Module v1.2 
(aka the #1051 validation) proper remains usable, as that exact and 
specific module.  However, "private label" validations of that same 
source code become much more difficult, i.e. that code base will no 
longer be directly suitable for the rubber stamp validations so many 
commercial vendors have done under their own names.

<rant>
I find it sad and ironic that many vendors are willing to fund private 
revalidations of the same code, over and over again, yet no one is 
willing to support the open source validations that make those possible 
in the first place.  The total amount invested that way across the 
industry (and hence indirectly paid for by taxpayers, as FIPS validated 
products are or primary interest to the government market) dwarfs the 
cost of a single open source based validation that everyone could use.
</rant>

We (the OSF) are part of the problem too, we do private label 
validations for pay (shameless plug: very cost effectively as we'd had a 
lot of practice).  Such work doesn't improve the publicly available 
OpenSSL product but it does help pay the rent.  We'd much rather work on 
the open source software, however.

-Steve M.

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