On Wed July 15 2009, Steffen DETTMER wrote:
> * Michael S. Zick wrote on Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 07:38 -0500:
> > You can approximate that by grabbing the processor's silicon
> > serial number plus grab the USB stick's silicon serial number
> > plus a user input (partial) passphrase.
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> I assume a good virtualisation (maybe some patched VMWare or
> alike) allows to easily bypass this.
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> Also, the OP wrote:
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>   `what if the agent takes the network card out and plug into his home PC'
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> so here we need to raise the question if the agent takes out the CPU 
> and plug into his home PC.
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> > I.E: The files can't be copied to a different USB device (and still work);
> > The USB device must be installed on the same computer;
> > The user must provide the "secret" part of the passphrase.
> 
> I don't have information how this is implemented, but I doubt
> that it cannot be attacked by virtualization and debuggers...
> (in other words, I'm afraid that this and several other proposals
>  are `security through obscurity' only).
>

Ah, the overpowering drive to be "right"
Regardless of how much context you must cut from the post be "right"

<quote>
Not as good as a device engineered to secure information, but "hard" 
enough to be safe from compromise by the casual user.
</quote>

Or maybe your finger was reaching for the "reply" key before your eyes
got to that qualification.  Ah, the urge to be "right" at any cost.

Mike 
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