aha! so this is what I was suspecting actually. Please tell me where  I can 
RTFM about setting up 
the root certs in my CA root certs dir?
and how to do the hash thing? if theres a howto, please point me to it.

thanks/regards,
Jason



> But you must add your new root certs to the CA certs databases where pine 
> and mutt are searching for.
> For pine, the default path is embedded in the code (for mutt I don't know), 
> during the build phase you can tell him
> 
> ./build SSLCERTS="/path/to/CA root certs directory (hashed!!)"
> 
> With openssl s_client, you must tell him to point out the same dir with the 
> option -CApath "/path/to/CA root certs directory (hashed!!)"
> 

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