haha, i like your style...
but as i responded to rich salz - albeit of list...
"
oh, no offence intended...
just wanted to know how active the list was cause compared to the other lists im on there doesnt seem to be that many posts.
thought i was on the wrong list...
"


probably an oversight on my part in hitting the reply button as opposed to the replyall.

hope you have a nice lunch today!
im goin home in half an hour... gotta love that timezone difference


Charles B Cranston wrote:

Ronan wrote:

is this list just not that active or do the people on it honestly not know the answers??


Well, let's consider some OTHER hypotheses:

1. The question is so easy that everybody thinks someone else will
   answer it.  That is, the old hands say "oh, not AGAIN!!!" and are
   just bone tired of answering the same questions over and over again,
   even though the answers are in the FAQ, while those of us who are
   relatively new to the list but DO know the answers sometimes jump in
   and, in a spirit of gratitude to the old hands who got us to where
   we are today, try to answer the question.

2. The question is so hard that the few who could really answer it have
   printed it out and taken it to lunch with them, so they can really
   analyze the situation without being interrupted by phone calls from
   pointy-haired bosses yada yada.

3. The question is incomprehensible due to being expressed in such a
   broken form of English that even a native speaker cannot quite puzzle
   out what is being asked.  I say this as a person who has been
   struggling to learn a foreign language all my life (on and off) and
   I must say that I have the greatest sympathy for someone who is
   trying to learn English as a second language -- yes, it is a REALLY
   difficult language, but that doesn't help us understand your question
   any better.  Is there any English speaker around there who can help
   you with making the question more understandable?

4. The question exposes some inherent flaw in the design and/or
   implementation of the software, and everybody who has invested ego in
   the software is somewhat embarrased and hence reticent to reply.

There are probably more.  But I suggest you review the recent exchanges
I had with Bilal Shahid.

On Nov 2 he posted some general questions about certificates and
calling the "openssl ca" function to generate them.

On Nov 2 I read this posting, and didn't understand why he framed
the question in quite the way he did, so I tried to diagnose what
information he didn't have that would cause a question to be
asked in such a way, and I then responded with a list of what I
thought might be documentation likely to supply that missing
information.

On Nov 3 he posted a description of two scenarios he titled
Case 1 and Case 2.

On Nov 3 I read the scenarios and replied with a fairly complete
analysis of his Case 1 and why the failure he was seeing was most
probably happening.  I also answered some of his questions about
how two certificate extensions interact, and explained how the
command line arguments to openssl ca were causing the information
on what extensions to add to the certificate were coming from two
different sections in probably two different configuration files.

This is hardly commeasurate with your complaint.

As it happens, I have done no actual programming with the OpenSSL
library, though I've had extensive experience in using OpenSSL from
the command line, and loosely linked to from Perl and C, so I don't
personally have the knowlege to answer your question of 4:18 this
morning, however, I don't think it is appropriate to post a complaint
at 6:39 the same morning.  I don't think you can expect free advice
with a less than 3 hour turnover, especially when the US is asleep.
(Guess I'm assuming Netscape has converted GMT to EST right... :-)

Who knows?  Maybe somebody printed out your question and is reading
it over his lunch, like I did with Bilal's second post...


-- Regards

Ronan McGlue
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