Ok guys, thank you for your very precious help.

Take care.

Marc Gaudichet


> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Envoyé : vendredi 21 novembre 2003 12:33
> À : Marc Gaudichet
> Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Objet : Re: RE : RAND_status always returns 1
> 
> 
> In message 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ge.telelogos> on Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:05:40 +0100, "Marc 
> Gaudichet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> mgaudichet> >>Hmm, I doubt very much that running RAND_poll() 
> multiple 
> mgaudichet> >>times on top of itself gives that much more entropy.
> mgaudichet> 
> mgaudichet> Concerning this, RAND_poll() behaves as follows on Windows
> mgaudichet> systems:
> mgaudichet>   - call to NetStatisticsGet for LanManWorkstation and
> mgaudichet>     LanManServer services;
> mgaudichet>   - call to CryptGenRandom to poll the CryptoAPI PRNG
> mgaudichet>     and the Pentium PRG;
> mgaudichet>   - call to GlobalMemoryStatus;
> mgaudichet>   - call to GetCurrentProcessId;
> mgaudichet>   - call to GetForegroundWindow;
> mgaudichet>   - call to GetCursorInfo;
> mgaudichet>   - call to GetQueueStatus;
> mgaudichet>   - call to thread, process, module and heap polling
> mgaudichet>     function.
> mgaudichet> Don't you think that entropy given is sufficient each time
> mgaudichet> RAND_poll() is called ?
> 
> One could think so, but you have to remember that it aquires 
> all those source if they are available (i.e. aquiring them in 
> a documented way is supported).  You may have noticed that 
> there are quite a few tests to check if each resource can 
> really be used.
> 
> mgaudichet> >>The most common form is by loading a file of 
> randomness, 
> mgaudichet> >>but I udnerstand that's not a option for you.
> mgaudichet> 
> mgaudichet> What actually bothers me with a file containing 
> randomness 
> mgaudichet> is that its contents must be changed quite often, 
> otherwise 
> mgaudichet> it's predictable. But maybe the following 
> solution is not a 
> mgaudichet> sin (I hope so!) :
> mgaudichet> 
> mgaudichet> ///////////////////////////////////////
> mgaudichet> if (!RAND_status())
> mgaudichet>   {
> mgaudichet>   /* If RAND_poll() is not sufficient, then load 
> randomness 
> mgaudichet> file */
> mgaudichet>   RAND_load_file(g_szFileName,-1);
> mgaudichet>   }
> mgaudichet> /* Rewrite the randomness file so that its 
> contents changes 
> mgaudichet> often */ RAND_write_file(g_szFileName); 
> mgaudichet> ///////////////////////////////////////
> 
> That's a common compromise (programs like PGP and GnuPG do 
> that). However, I wouldn't do the writing so immediately 
> after the seed. Rather, I'd do it at exit of the program, if 
> possible (I know, if the program is forcedly killed, you 
> loose the chance to write down the randomness).  That way, 
> the pool from which the written data is extracted has been as 
> stirred as the program allows, thereby increasing the chances 
> that the new contents of the file are unpredictable.
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