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It's not that you pissed anybody off ( At least I am not pissed off) it's how you responded to Shawn. He was just giving advise and the way you responded to him like he was out in left field. I just didn't think Shawn deserved such a response to his post. Dustin Tuft -----Original Message----- From: buddy fancher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Need of FBI surveilence and PC monitoring invasionprotection...ieCarnovore, etc.... My apology. Shawn was not judgemental. Dustintuft, I think I will leave your opinion about the post does not belong here. Is there a code of conduct of questions that are forbidden, someone please clue me in ? I only asked for advice, sorry if I pissed anybody off here. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dustin Tuft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:09 AM Subject: RE: Need of FBI surveilence and PC monitoring invasionprotection...ieCarnovore, etc.... > I realize that this post does not belong here but I belive that > conduct should addressed. > > Buddy, > > I belive that Shawn has a very good point. And that even encription > would not stop anyone from getting to the data they want. There is no > truly secure system once you plug it into a network. Given time and > knowledge about any given system there are always cracks to be > exploited. In your case it would seem that some one is accessing your > system remotely (Given the information that you have posted and not > based on a real network sniff). And for what ever reason you belive > that you can not speake with the invader so I would start there first, > plug the hole. > > And by the way Shawn was not judgemental. That's just my opinion take > it or leave. > > Dustin Tuft > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn P. Stanley > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:52 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Need of FBI surveilence and PC monitoring > invasionprotection...ie Carnovore, etc.... > > > I apologize for being so off-topic with regard to your question and my > subsequent answers, but it seems these days people look for the more > technical answer when a simpler, less technical solution might be more > effective. > > As an example, look at how Al-Q'aeda operates with their > messenger-based network, which both the CIA and the FBI have yet to > crack. > > I didn't mean to imply that I was judging you for having the FBI in > your business. It's happened to lots of good people and totally > ruined their lives. But I stand by what I said: if you have something > they want to see, they WILL visit you if you close their electronic > trap door. > > On 8/5/03 12:35 PM, "buddy fancher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Shawn, I asked for a technical answer, not a judgemental opinion. > > Corey and Phil are right. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Shawn P. Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:48 AM > > Subject: Re: Need of FBI surveilence and PC monitoring invasion > > protection...ie Carnovore, etc.... > > > > > >> I guess my point is that if "they" are already "out to get you," > >> then > > >> encrypting the data they're looking at now will most likely result > >> in > > >> a house call. > >> > >> On 8/5/03 2:57 AM, "Corey Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> I have to disagree here. Use encryption as often as you can. > >>> Encrypt > > >>> any and everything you can at will. Get into the habit of > >>> encrypting > > >>> everything similar to how some of our emails are always digitally > >>> signed using PGP or GnuPG. > >>> > >>> Encryption must become the norm. > >>> > >>> According to Phil, " If privacy it outlawed, then only outlaws > >>> will have privacy." > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 17:10, Shawn P. Stanley wrote: > >>>> Perhaps some simple trepanation. > >>>> > >>>> Why is the FBI trying to destroy your life? Perhaps tackling the > >>>> root > > of > >>>> the problem will yield a more effective result. Using encryption > >>>> will likely only serve to escalate the problem. > >>>> > >>>> On 8/4/03 5:49 PM, "buddy fancher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi there, > >>>>> I need some help from you guys. My computer mail and disk are > > constantly > >>>>> being written to and read back from an unknown source. I suggest > > perhaps > >>>>> Carnavore or something simular (FBI). This is an invasion of my > >>>>> civil > > rights > >>>>> and my privacy. I have had problems with the FBI trying to > >>>>> destroy > > >>>>> my > > life > >>>>> before because they think they can do whatever it is they > >>>>> please, and > > are > >>>>> above the law. They are not above the law. > >>>>> If anyone can give some simple advice on this problem, it will > >>>>> be > > greatly > >>>>> appreciated. > >>>>> They think they can destroy anyone's life, and the have no one > >>>>> to answ > > er to. > >>>>> Sincerely, > >>>>> Buddy > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > ______________________________________________________________________ > >>>>> OpenSSL Project > http://www.openssl.org > >>>>> User Support Mailing List > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> Automated List Manager > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> > >>>> > ______________________________________________________________________ > >>>> OpenSSL Project > http://www.openssl.org > >>>> User Support Mailing List > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> Automated List Manager > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > ______________________________________________________________________ > >> OpenSSL Project > http://www.openssl.org > >> User Support Mailing List > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Automated List Manager > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org > > User Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ______________________________________________________________________ > OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org > User Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ______________________________________________________________________ > OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org > User Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] ______________________________________________________________________ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
