Hi Michael,

Yes...  I have a requirement that the server that authenticates the
password can be running at the different platforms at different
times.....  Can you tell me if there is a way to get identical passwords
for a given string whichever platform the SHA1 algorithm is run?


Thanks.


-Siva

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Subject: Re: machine independent hash


Hmm.  I could be missing something here, but I see no need to be able to

have SHA1() compute the same digest on all platforms, unless you will be

moving the password file from machine to machine (assuming you *are*
using 
a password file).

Really, the client sends passwords raw (well, over an encrypted
transport, 
ideally), and it is the server which computes a hash against the
received 
password.  It is also the server which maintains the username/password 
database(s).  Therefore, all of the digest computations are performed on
the *same machine.*

Let me know if I'm missing something crucial here, since I just wrote a 
server stub that does exactly the above.  Otherwise, I think I have it 
right.


MIchael




On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Sivaselvam CN wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I am in need of a secure "one way hash" algorithm and I want to use
> right one available with the OpenSSL. I want to store passwords after
> one way hashing so that the passwords are not stored in disk as clear
> text.
> 
> 1) I have found that (correct me if I am wrong) that SHA1 is the right
> algorithm for the new applications (one producing 160 bit digest)
> compared to MD5 (one with 128 bit digest). Hence I decided to use SHA1
> algorithm. The problem I have is that the hash value for a given
string
> is not unique across different platforms.  I used the following
function
> in "sha.h" file 
> 
> "unsigned char *SHA1(const unsigned char *d, unsigned long n,unsigned
> char *md)".
> 
> This generates a hash string from the password string. When I generate
> the hash for a given string repeatedly, the hash is same all the times
> on a given platform. But it is not identical across platforms (windows
> and Linux, both on Intel). Is this the expected behavior or I am
making
> an error somewhere?
> 
> 2) If this is the expected behavior, how to make the SHA1 algorithm
> generate the same hash for a given string across all platforms?
> 
> 3) I get identical hash values if I use the 
> 
> "char *des_crypt(const char *buf,const char *salt)" function in des.h
> 
> The doc says this is "crypt algorithm".  This function takes a
> seed(salt) value along with the password and generates a hash. Is this
a
> "one way hash" algorithm?
> 
> 4) Is "des_crypt" gives identical outputs across all platforms because
> it uses a seed? Or using seed in hash is a way to generate identical
> outputs across all platforms?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance
> -Siva
> 
> 
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