Curious assertions you make, WolfPup Lowenhar. So, I wonder, what
would be a more up to date repository than the one retrieved from by:
hg clone http://hg.secondlife.com/viewer-development
Which is precisely where I retrieved the repository that I used just a
few days previous. I also followed the instructions on the public
wiki for how to use autobuild. Perhaps it is naive to assume that as
it is documented, published, and available, that it might actually be
of use (in particular since it appears the older documentation of how
to work with fmod is gone).
The autobuild reveals three problems. The first is that it attempts
to retrieve files from s3-proxy.lindenlab.com which resolves to a
non-routable IP address. The second is that linden labs would allow
internal IP addresses to leak to the outside. The third is that the
documentation on how to build the viewer gives no indication of what
do do about the situation.
Perhaps you misunderstood that I repaired the two lines of the
autobuild.xml file such that the autobuild will work. I did so with
the help of Mr. Google who pointed out an older autobuild.xml that
referenced an alternate location of the two particular files in
question using a globally routable address. If you are concerned that
this solution resulted in out dated copies of said files, please do
not be stressed as they appear to be the same ones referenced by the
new "broken for everyone but lindens" autobuild.xml file as the
checksums match. So, contrary to your assertion, you do have access
to the said files if you care to repair your autobuild.xml, the issue
presented that linden labs should not have placed said files there not
withstanding.
My task was a simple one, to simply build a current viewer without
grey goo by using the publicly available instructions. Of course,
building the SL viewer is never that easy. Fortunately this time the
task was accomplished with only having to modify two lines in one
file.
Hugs,
Glimmering
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:45 AM, WolfPup Lowenhar
<wolfpu...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Ok I see two things here Glimmering Sands:
>
> 1. You are using an old repository the current one is actually viewer
> development as autobuild has been merged in.
>
> 2. FMOD and KDU are actually somewhere in http://s3-proxy.lindenlab.com
> of which we as Open Source Developers have NO access to and are NOT allowed
> to have access to.
>
>
>
> Ima Mecanique,
>
> The FMOD and KDU libs are not distributed externally if you look at a
> current copy of the autobuild.xml you will find that the address is a
> private one for them and a few others LL cannot freely distribute. Now LL
> has ‘provided’ a way for those that have FMOD already to ‘re-pacakage’ this
> one for use in the autobuild. LL dose not actually modify any of the FMOD
> files but actually creates a ‘wraper’ in the form of llaudio to interface
> with fmod.dll so that those that are on Windows will have working sound.
>
>
>
> From: opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com
> [mailto:opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com] On Behalf Of Ima
> Mechanique
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 7:03 AM
> To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] s3-proxy.lindenlab.com points to a private IP
> address?
>
>
>
>> Linden Lab should not be distributing either of these libraries, as
>> they do not have a license that permits them to do so(from what I have
>> heard from them in other dialogs). So this violates and possibly voids
>> their license for Kakadu, as well as all of their careful planning to
>> keep it out of every developers hands except for their own.
>>
>> I hope that they will take these down, and it is not an error that you
>> should NOT be able to download them. The error here is that they are
>> trying to be downloaded at all.
>
> This is something of a grey area.
> For KDU, this is not distributing per se, as it is only the headers and
> lib file to link against, not the final library being made available.
> I'm not privy to the license details so have no idea if this would be a
> breach of terms..
>
> For FMOD, things are clearer.
>
> "The contents of the FMOD distribution archive may not be redistributed,
> reproduced, modified, transmitted, broadcast, published or adapted in any
> way, shape or form, without the prior written consent of the owner,
> Firelight Technologies, be it by tangible or non tangible media.
>
> The fmod.dll file may be redistributed without the authors prior permission,
> and must remain unmodified."
>
> LL have both modified the archive (by creating a new one) and are
> redistributing that modified version, so I hope they have obtained
> written permission from Firelight Technologies I'd hope that FT would
> be happy to grant permission, as it relieves their servers of the
> download bandwidth required.
>
>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 23:34, Glimmering Sands
>> <glimmering.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Well, I have discovered, through the wonders of Mr. Google, that there
>> > is an older copy autobuild.xml out there at:
>> >
>> >
>> > https://bitbucket.org/merov_linden/viewer-autobuild2010/src/44f214103cff/autobuild.xml
>> >
>> > and I was able to simply use the
>> >
>> > http://s3.amazonaws.com/viewer-source-downloads/install_pkgs/...
>> >
>> > lines for both fmod and kdu (would it be considered a bug that Linden
>> > Labs is distributing an autobuild.xml that uses internal only paths
>> > rather than using the external paths (that I guessed the used to
>> > have?)
>> >
>> > One can also wonder why you would let internal DNS records be allowed
>> > to external sites as well...
>> >
>> > Sometime later I will discover if this solves my grey goo box problem or
>> > not :-)
>> >
>> > Hugs,
>> >
>> > Glimmering
>
>
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