Typically Joe Everyguy, from my experience as an IT professional, will
just double-click (or single click depending on settings) the file
from Windows Explorer/Mac Finder.  (Us *NIX folks have our own way of
looking at things...)  if the file has the .xml extension it will work
correctly.  If we do find that a fair portion of users go the long
route of Open notepad, go to file>open, browse to the file, select,
and click the Open button, then we can simply leave a SGML comment up
near the top that says something to the effect of:

<!-- NOTICE: Windows users please open in Internet Explorer.  Mac
users, open in Safari.  Other browsers may also be acceptable. -->

Ricky
Crons Stardust

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 1:54 AM, Rob Nelson
<nexisentertainm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  This.  Say Joe Everyguy wants to look for a rather hot conversation he
> had with what he assumes was a very attractive-looking female
> yesterday.  With a text logfile, he just has to open the log in notepad
> and CTRL+F for "VerySexy Lady".  Since that was her display name at the
> time, it's included along with her real name (trucker.bob) and is
> therefore searchable. (Since the realname is included as well, it is
> also searchable.)
>
> With what I've seen of the LLSD log, he'd open it up, be presented with
> what he thinks is gibberish, and then close it.  If he tried to search
> for "VerySexy Lady", he wouldn't find anything because only the UUID is
> included.
>
> If the desire is to come up with a more easily parsed format for OH
> records, add an option to log to a non-LLSD XML file that is more easily
> transformed using XSL.  Something like:
>
> <log channel="localchat">
> <said id="UUID" type="object" displayname="An object"
> location="secondlife:///..." timestamp="Date/Time">STUFF</said>
> <said id="UUID" displayname="Rob Nelson" realname="rob.nelson"
> timestamp="Date/Time">What was said</said>
> <shouted id="UUID" displayname="Rob Nelson" realname="rob.nelson"
> timestamp="Date/Time">What was said</shouted>
> <whispered id="UUID" displayname="Rob Nelson" realname="rob.nelson"
> timestamp="Date/Time">What was said</whispered>
> </log>
>
> Rob
>
> On 10/17/2010 1:34 AM, Lance Corrimal wrote:
>> Am Sonntag 17 Oktober 2010 schrieb Ricky:
>>> I agree, the XML notation is far from perfect (see some of my posts
>>> last year about the subject,) however I consider it better than
>>> either text or this almost-JSON notation for a variety of reasons,
>>> all laid out in https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23451 for
>>> ease of reference.
>>>
>>> Assuming that the order of fields is fixed, a fair assumption as
>>> LLSD requires it I believe, then the XSLT isn't so bad, and a
>>> prototype has already been made.
>>>
>>> On the subject of using other standard tools, such as
>>> grep/sed/awk/etc., I fully agree.  This is why I'd fight against
>>> any binary or compressed format.  However, no such proposal has
>>> been made.
>> Guys, keep one thing in mind:
>>
>> the average user has no inclination of "processing" the logfiles with
>> anything.
>>
>> The average user, at best, will open the logfiles in notepad to look
>> at them, and to find stuff like "what was the name of that place that
>> i heard about at that or that date".
>>
>> The average user runs windows, where tools such as grep/awk/sed are
>> not exactly common, either.
>>
>>
>> bye,
>> LC
>>
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