Fair enough, but the simple fact is that the interface needs to be changed
so that they can reclaim more of the sign ups to the grid. The last numbers
i have read on the learning curve is something like 70% of the users that
sign up leave because they have troubles with the interface.  And we must
also consider that this is a business and LL needs to make good to keep the
grid alive.

I would sugest that we try to improve the interface and make the viewer more
usable for all. Kirsten has done a great job modifying the 2.X platform, and
she seems to be moving it forward.

I do agree that the new interface is clunky and it needs work but as it
compares to the 1.x it is much improved.

And it was my mistake.


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On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Henri Beauchamp <sl...@free.fr> wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:27:32 -0500, dilly dobbs wrote:
>
> > I would like to know 2  things, as an observer.  You continue to make
> > statements like 'TPV developers' as if you speak for them all.
> >
> > Secondly, I distinctly remember you saying goodbye to us all, Is this
> your
> > Hi im back statement?
> >
> > This isn't meant to be offensive im just trying to understand where your
> > coming from.
>
> 1.- TPV developers seem to be agreeing with me (at least, none of
>    them so far denied it in this list). Same thing if to believe their
>    own blogs and forums... But for Kirsten and Marine (Kirsten probably
>    because she values most shadow rendering and other rendering
>    improvements in v2, and Marine because she always provided
>    RestrainedLove for the current official viewer), none of them so far
>    consider moving to the viewer 2 code base in the short term, and
>    several of them (at least three in this list, me included) seem
>    pretty much disapointed (to say the least), with LL's stance.
>    Oh, I also had a look to the mercurial repository for Snowstorm,
>    and tried to count the TPV developpers who submitted patches...
>    Even someone amputated with fingers on each hand, could still
>    count them on one hand...
>    Plus, in my messages on this list, I merely pointed out how, when
>    considering the pros and the cons of a move to viewer 2, LL's own
>    stance on Snowstorm is far from an encouragement to do the move,
>    and even less to contribute to Snowstorm.
>
> 2.- You should read my posts better...
>    I never said I'd leave, much to the contrary (I even said I'd fight
>    to the last extremity before I would even consider giving up); you
>    are probably confusing me with Aleric who just left.
>
> I might be blunt with LL, but they often deserve it, and I always try
> to be constructive. I've got "some experience", mind you, both in RL
> (counted in decades) and in SL (counted in years)... That's "where I'm
> coming from"...
> While my prose in this list most often only represents my personal
> opinion, it might be of some value, even to LL... and even if they
> might well often cringe when reading me. :-P
>
> Henri.
>
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