I believe that Linden Lab is quite clear that it wants an open source
community.  I also believe that, unfortunately, it does not quite realize
that when the Lab and the community become partners in an open source
project, that there are strings attached.

Morgaine.



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On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Mike Monkowski
<monko...@fishkill.ibm.com>wrote:

> Soft,
>
> It is not clear whether Linden Lab wants an open source community.  The
> impression from this side is that Linden wants help fixing bugs, but not
> fixing features, but if that requires importing a feature or two, then
> it's worth the trouble.
>
> It is also quite clear that Linden does not want any help in design.
> The user experience office hours haven't been hosted by Lindens for more
> than a year now and Lindens rarely attend the extension of those
> meetings now being run by residents, particularly Jacek Antonelli.
> (Thank you Jacek.  I'd nominate you for a Hippo Award if Linden still
> gave Hippo Awards.)
>
> You spoke of "understanding each other's needs."  I would wager that
> there is a near unanimous view in the community that Linden does not
> understand the needs of an open source community.  Certainly threats of
> "throttling" are not among them.  Lindens usually speak as if the
> failure to understand is entirely on the side of the contributors, and
> Lindens are not at all at fault.
>
> You say "a totally healthy open source project usually can be developed
> completely in the open," but this project has never been developed
> completely in the open, and the trend is strongly toward closed
> development.
>
> If we understood how we were being "obstructionist" and "in the way of
> business," then a conversation could develop.  I, personally, don't know
> what you are referring to.
>
> At the moment, the SL open source community is very close to taking the
> 1.23.5 code, pulling in a few features from 2.0, and permanently forking
> from the standard viewer.  I don't think that's good for anyone.
>
> Mike
>
> Soft Linden wrote:
> > This is a company with an open source project, not an open source
> > project with a company. If the community becomes obstructionist enough
> > to get in the way of business, the open source part will get throttled
> > back. If the community's being largely helpful, open source
> > involvement is advanced. I spoke up because this conversation was
> > looking a lot like something that could lead to throttling while
> > accomplishing nothing.
> >...
> > A totally healthy open source project usually can be developed
> > completely in the open, and in a way that's aligned with everybody's
> > interests. But that takes an active commitment on all sides, both in
> > terms of composure, and in understanding each others' needs.
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