250% ACK! Am Freitag 26 Februar 2010 schrieb Rob Nelson: > I (obviously) agree. > > I highly doubt that trying to claim copyright on "Life" or "Second" > in court would make the judge take the case seriously. What's > next, claiming copyright on "primitive", "avatar", "lab", and > "simulator"? Sending C&Ds to people who write viewers called Slick > or Slanderous? Sending C&Ds to people who write programs that have > nothing to do with Linden Lab whatsoever? > > Also, can anyone confirm/deny whether "Living" is also a forbidden > term? RLV's developer blog has posted that "Living" was also > rejected by Linden staff, but I'd like to hear it from the horse's > mouth. If so, I might as well move my viewer over to OpenSim > exclusively, and not have to bother with overbearing regulations > and rabid lawyers at all. > > When you spend so much time harassing legitimate viewers, and so > little time going after the people who are actually damaging you, > you need to re-check your priorities. People who write Copybots > and NeilLife-like viewers are your enemies (they're certainly not > going to spend much money), so go after them instead of having > everyone else jump through hoops that the copybotters are going to > ignore anyway. All you're doing is making it harder for > legitimate people to create content and applications for your > grid. > > Also, are we going to see enforcement of this, or is it going to > quietly disappear after about a week like all of the other > Copybot/Content theft-related promises we've heard on the blog? > > Rob Nelson > Lead Developer > Luna Viewer (http://luna-viewer.googlecode.com) > > On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 22:01 -0800, Bryon Ruxton wrote: > > A name suggestion for viewers: "A viewer that connect to a > > virtual world that can't be name for risks of being objected to > > by a company with aggressive lawyers who like to come up with > > unconscionable terms of services, or who make illegitimate > > attempts of one's right to forbid the usage of words they do not > > have trademark rights over" > > > > > "Unfortunately they maintain that we put our trademark at risk > > > without > > > > consistent enforcement. They can't budge." > > Soft, they ought to consider that abusive overreach on their part > > could on the other end, put LL at risk of being liable once again > > of lawsuits being translated in court to unconscionable terms of > > services. Sounds familiar? > > > > As far I recall LL has the trademark over "SL" and "Second Life". > > So perhaps your lawyers could suck the "Life" out of their > > jurisdictions? > > > > I get the fact that they had to go an extra unusual mile with > > brand name protection due the nature of the company's name. But > > there was also an attempt to trademark the word "grid" alone, in > > the past. That speaks a lot! > > > > I don't see a need for concessions here, but for your lawyers to > > re-evaluate their legitimate rights to such claim to begin with. > > I just don't see it. > > > > If I was your marketing department. I would be equally concerned > > as to the repercussions of such restrictions for impeding the > > ability for Linden Research to promote its Second Life name and > > market itself as a grid. > > > > "Stop shooting yourself in the foot. It could impede your ability > > to walk." > > > > On 2/24/10 11:16 AM, "Soft Linden" <s...@lindenlab.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Marine Kelley <marinekel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> You gotta be kiddin me !! I call that a stab in the back. You > > >> guys disgust me. > > >> > > >> Your Third-Party Viewer name must not be confusingly similar > > >> to or use any part of a Linden Lab trademark, including > > >> ³Second,² ³Life,² ³SL,² or ³Linden.² For example: > > >> > > >> You must not have a Third-Party Viewer name that is ³________ > > >> Life² where ³________² is a term or series of terms > > > > > > I talked to legal to ask if there were any concessions they > > > could make - I know there are hundreds of items that use your > > > name, which makes this really disruptive. Unfortunately they > > > maintain that we put our trademark at risk without consistent > > > enforcement. They can't budge. However, they were willing to > > > offer some extra time for transitioning to a new name, as well > > > as help in making sure people can still find your viewer based > > > on the old name. > > > > > > First, you wouldn't need to change the name right away. They > > > were okay with giving three months to make a change, in hopes > > > that that's enough time to do so without a rush or an extra > > > release. > > > > > > Second, if you're able to do that, you can still be listed in > > > the viewer registry right away. You'd need to select a new name > > > for the viewer, but "(formerly Restrained Life)" will be shown > > > underneath the name so there's no question as to which viewer > > > people would download if they came in search of your own. > > > > > > If there's anyone else with an established viewer name that > > > conflicts with the viewer policy, and who wants to be included > > > in the registry, the same offer is open to you as well. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > > > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > > > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated > > > posting privileges > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated > > posting privileges > > _______________________________________________ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges >
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