Al Hopper's right. The OGB was spineless, Sun was aggressive and ignored the community. They'll do whatever they're going to do quite aside from how we feel about it. It sucks. All we can do is add it to our cynicism and continue to try to build the greatest OS in the world, no matter what Sun decides to call it.
Ultimately it's about the code, not the name. On 13-Feb-08, at 8:35 PM, Brian Gupta wrote:
It pains me that Sun is doing so many great moves in open source, and there are so many great people at Sun that "get it", yet Sun decided to force it's wishes on a captive community. I hope those of you that are working at Sun that are trying to change things, don't get discouraged.Based on Sun's recent decisions, it has become clear to me that Sun has exercised their right to break the illusion that OpenSolaris is a community run project. (It is rather, a "community influenced" project). I'm sure Sun's executives have discussed this, and have convinced themselves that this is "best for the community, and best for Sun". However, this does not change the fact that the OpenSolaris community (directly or indirectly through it's elected representational body the OGB) does not have control over it's own website or name.Complaining about it, no matter how many emails we post on list, won't change things. If we want to change things, it will take hard work.Stop complaining, and do something about it. Get organized. Lead or join a project to develop a new trademark w/ a supporting nonprofit foundation, that are controlled by the community. (If you care to DO something about it, feel free to contact me on or off list.)This requires work. It will require, web developers, sysadmins, etc. to build new website, and people willing to brainstorm in private about potential trademarks. (Obviously when we are talking about registering domains, we will need to do so in private.)We will need to build out our infrastructure so that we can host development, mailing-lists and etc.. Once that is done, we will need to make the case to start moving development to the new organization/ infrstructure. This will mean that even Sun employees will have to chose to move their development work to a community "controlled" development infrastructure. (Let's cross this bridge when we come to it. I just list it because it is daunting).This is a project that would take time to implement, especially as a volunteer-only effort with no corporate sponsors. It's daunting and huge, and Sun is betting that there aren't enough people who care this project isn't really controlled by the community, (and are willing to do something about it.)I am willing to work towards making this happen, but I am not willing, or able, to do so alone.-- - Brian GuptaP.S. - It was in hindsight, probably a mistake to use a valuable Sun Trademark to name this community/website/project. Thankfully, Sun did not make the same mistake with Java. (OpenJDK).http://opensolaris.org/os/project/nycosug/http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/OpenSolaris_New_User_FAQ _______________________________________________ogb-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/ogb-discuss
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