On 02/11/2007, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 02/11/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >I think he does understand; look where Debian is now, and how Ubuntu
> > >has risen above them. Do we want to end up like Debian? So caught-up
> > >in voting and democracy that we are paralysed and unable to make
> > >important choices?
> >
> >
> >
> > So you suggest a dictatorship on the basis that the trains run on
> > time.
>
> Now you're reading between the lines; making assumptions. I merely
> indicated that the level of bureaucracy is getting overwhelming.
>
> > Why is it that the proponents of the OpenSolaris name for the Indiana
> > distributions are so opposed to voting?   It's not like we propose
> > voting over everything.
>
> I have repeatedly said I would like to see a vote and yet I am
> repeatedly accused of opposing one. Stop putting words in my mouth.
>
> > But we strongly feel that anything which usurps the OpenSolaris name and
> > takes exclusive ownership of that name should have community wide
> > consensus based support.  Having a vote is, in fact, a step down from
> > that position.  It is clear that there is no consensus.
>
> How can you usurp something you have no control over?
>
> > I see that the Indiana proponents are trying to continuously deflect the
> > issues.  It's not about what Indiana produced; it is not about whether
> > we should or should not have a distribution labeled OpenSolaris. It's
> > about a single project singlehandedly claiming ownership of OpenSolaris
> > without even asking the community or the its elected representatives.
>
> The community was asked actually. It's just that the community was
> allowed to decide. Asking for input and following it are two different
> things.

Correction "*not* allowed to decide".

-- 
Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst
http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/

"We don't have enough parallel universes to allow all uses of all
junction types--in the absence of quantum computing the combinatorics
are not in our favor..." --Larry Wall
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