servo said:

>"Solaris and Windows Virtualization - Sun and Microsoft will work together to 
>ensure that Solaris runs well as a guest on Microsoft virtualization 
>technologies and that Windows Server runs well as a guest on Sun's 
>virtualization technologies."

>Okay, not to be a spoilsport, but what the hell is that supposed to mean? What 
>are Sun's virtualization techniques? Zones comes into my mind, but that's 
>about what I can dig up from my brain.

>I would appreciate a Windows brand, but I doubt this is actually going to 
>happen.


Don't be so sure, they could do well with this stuff actually. There are a lot 
of places that would love to be able to deploy XP/Vista instances inside a 
Solaris host environment. These same places don't want to do this on Linux 
because they don't want further support contract and vendor hassles.

I mentioned NTFS because that would help both companies a great deal with 
deployment issues that their customers face daily. It would also be quite 
useful if Microsoft deployed basic utility for ufs & zfs too. There is no good 
reason not to do it for either party, even doing so as closed binaries. 

Even just in the basic case of individual usage, being able to mount partitions 
either way would be  major, major fresh air for both companies customers. I 
havn't contemplated the innovation potential that exists, but the reduction in 
hassle and pain associated with this issue would certainly leave more energy 
for it. There are probably plenty of people here who are quite familiar with 
the details of this issue, as well as the workarounds & get alongs, but they 
are all vastly outnumbered by people who not only do not know how to deal with 
it, but do not want to know either. Microsoft, Sun, and every other OS maker 
build hate when people run into filesystem issues.

Everyone knows this is a problem, it's been a problem forever and developed 
naturally and normally. Without success it would not be a problem for anyone. 
But functioning under the same assumptions that were true yesterday about this 
serves no one today. The problems today are a lot less the technological ones 
that existed in the past that created barriers. 

It would be awful to do a pile of work ensuring their software plays happy, and 
make work by not dealing with this issue because both companies were too 
shackled to the myths of the past.


Tim
 
 
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