On 7/31/07, Kaiwai Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 23:43 -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: > > One could argue that not only does Solaris need more users, > > but its > > quality rather than quantity. If the vast majority of the 40% > > are penny > > pinching, proprietary software hating, thick-rim-glasses > > wearing, hunch > > back coding geeks - it certainly won't attract vendors such as > > Adobe or > > MYOB who don't target that crowd. > > > > Penny pinching = intelligent > > proprietary software hating = trend setter > > thick-rim-glasses wearing = hip > > hunch back = bad and inaccurate stereotype > > coding geek = backbone of the technology industry > > > > All I want is all the coding geeks running Solaris on their > > laptops/desktops. (Especially University coding geeks... That is where > > people generally develop their OS preferences). Remember people deploy > > what they are familiar with. Also, they tend to deploy to the OS they > > develop with. (But this is less set in stone). > > > > Also, don't you get it? Proprietary apps are just a side show now... > > The real is action is in open source web development frameworks... > > (How many Linux users buy desktop applications!??!? Also it would be > > interesting to see of all the installed Linux servers what percentage > > are running shrink wrapped apps. I'd venture it is actually a small > > percentage.)
A trend setter to nowhere - the vast majority of applications are closed > source - until the day I see opensource programmers argue over code As we move to service based computing models, (WebApps 2.0) we are seeing the majority of these applications being built using FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software). They are being developed in PHP, Python, Ruby/Rails and Perl, generally they use MySQL and Postgres databases on the backend (Which both now support clustered databases). The predominant OS choice is Linux. quality, Why would they argue about code quality. Isn't the best way to have good code quality is to implement it, and let the code speak for itself? (See that's the thing, you can look at the source yourself. With proprietary solutions you have no idea what the quality of the code is. asking for feed back from end users and actually taking on > board that feedback and dropping the licencing jihad, that'll be when > opensource takes over the desktop. While there is a small but vocal minority of "free" software activists, the majority of "open source" advocates are focused on the practical benefits of distributed and open development models. They believe they gain a) faster development cycles, b) quicker bug fixes, c) addition programmer resources, d) visibility into the functioning of the code e) and the ability to not have to reinvent the wheel (build on top of other open source projects). There are more, but you get the idea. As far as I know, most OpenSource developers are glad for any feedback that they can get. (Particularly developers of user facing applications) I'd also say this is true for most developers, FLOSS or proprietary. (I know, because I often submit feedback, and have seen many of my suggestions implemented) Apart from a few token applications, it makes up a microscopic number > out there. I think at last count there are somewhere between 20,000-50,000 open source applications. Wake me up when there is an opensource equvilant of Creative Suite, > Photoshop Elements, Homesite, MYOB, Quicken etc. etc. - then we can > start to talk about opensource taking over the desktop. > Adobe alternatives: http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/contentcreation/0,1000001068,39286832,00.htm Homesite: http://www.osalt.com/nvu MYOB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboCASH Quicken: http://www.linux.com/articles/49400 Interestingly enough, many of the most popular video games today have been ported to Linux. -brian P.S. - In many ways I find the Ubuntu desktop much easier to use than Windows. If I run into a unrecognized file format, it just goes out to the network and learns about it. Although Windows tries to do the same thing, it results in failure many times. (Generally you need to be using Microsoft File Formats to get this to work properly).
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