> It may not be clean for a number of systems or > server farms, > but it seems to me the intention of making > OpenSolaris more > friendly to the other side is to get more > development and > following for OpenSolaris. As the training ground, > we'd all > hope that they come around to more structured > methodologies, > when it comes to packaging open source software. > However, > do you really think that a place with a large number > of systems > and server farms are going to allow folks to do a > make install > (unless it actually makes the package) on a set of > systems > like that.
What's 'large'? I had about two score of systems that were maintained that way for a while...FreeBSD boxes though. Then I got them converted to Linux because it was too painful just to maintain the stupid software stack on them. It took a while after that to get things moved over to packages because I had too much fire-fighting to do and then I had to fight to get some infrastructure put in place to allow those systems to be semi-automatically maintained with the goal of full hands off. Oh, this is just my mail server boxes where I just had to take this off my back. The other systems were all ad-hoc even after I got the infrastructure in place. That was in my previous job. Does it answer your question? :( But this whole thing about packages on Open Solaris is moot since there is no repository support. blastwave is okay to certain extent but it does not cut it if you compare to what is available in Linux space. > No, we're talking about folks who are used to rpm, > apt and > what have you, and Sun is catering to bringing them > over > to Open Solaris. :) > > Please grab your favorite non-solaris person and > give them > a solaris box and ask them to use a system tool to > find > a file they don't know about. ROTFL. find? :D What would Solaris old-hands do? > This topic is specifically about Sun catering to the > *nix masses out > there not currently using/developing on > Solaris/OpenSolaris. The ARC > spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to make > Solaris appear more > friendly to *nix users whose current systems have a > definitely tinted > GNU feel. Well....rpm, yum, apt and deb are not quite GNU :D > I'm all for foks doing things the > Solaris/OpenSolaris > way, but the fact is that it doesn't happen > overnight, > so attitudes like yours are likely to scare off the > folks that Sun is trying to attract. It is not just him. :( > I wasn't talking about HP-UX or IRIX. It has no > relevance here > other than giving you another avenue to slam the > folks > Sun is trying to recruit. These guys do not know that Solaris needs new blood. > hmmm. way to insult the new incoming user base. > I'm sure they feel real good about themselves after > reading > your post, and will comment that there's a bunch of > arrogant, condescending, "you're not good enough for > *MY* Operating System" folks over on the Open > Solaris > list, and go back to *nix. Regular fare here. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
